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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I ask for respect for my point of view.

I would, except it's too late for that. I used to vote as you did. But 2008 changed all that. We've turned a corner in this nation and there won't be any going back unless we shake off the old paradigm on elections and chart a new course.

What you advocate just doesn't work. Period. It seldom has. And now it may be too late. We only have next year, and possibly, I SAY POSSIBLY, 2012 to change it around. And voting for anyone who's willing to work across the aisle in a bipartisan fashion, will never allow us to succeed.

That's why we're being so harsh on you. It's not that we dislike you as a person. I'm sure you're a very fine, upstanding citizen and lovable great grandma. But your ways are the old ways. And we're here to tell you, that we're not going down that road any longer.

That's the message. If you can't understand it, or won't understand it is too bad for you. But not for us. We frankly don't give a damn about GOP politics any longer.

2,362 posted on 11/29/2009 1:36:03 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: bcsco

Well, just to augment your comment that we do care about the GOP so long as it remains a Conservative vehicle for change. If it becomes, as it has in several states, a me-too liberal party, then we have zero use for it. If Republican doesn’t mean Conservative, then there is no reason whatsoever to displace the Democrats.

Prime example of that in MA, whose GOP got thoroughly taken over by the left, the party is now dead and completely unable to win. There’s a Governor’s race next year and some are running around saying how “important” it is a “Republican” win. Why ? The “Republicans” running are liberals, the same liberals that killed the party dead (read: William Weld (who endorsed Zero) and Slick Willard). I endorsed an Independent running for Governor next year, Tim Cahill, because he is to the right of any of the RINOs running. He’s not a right-winger, of course, but he’s preferable to the rest of the garbage.


2,367 posted on 11/29/2009 1:48:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: bcsco
"That's the message. If you can't understand it, or won't understand it is too bad for you."

Ok. That sounds rather ...dismissive? It'll be too bad for ALL of us if we can't get our message of "no more RINOs" out... and more importantly, get it understood.

Methinks in most cases... gentle persuasion, but with a sense of urgency, coupled with logic and reason works better than outright dismissal.

I'm thinking of my mother as a prime example. If she were posting here and trying to convey her thoughts, some of you guys would eat her up and spit her out due to her inability to freep at 'expert level'. My mom's been a conservative Republican her whole life but has never posted on a forum of any kind. I don't know the truth behind this poster, as has been claimed by others here, but if she were my mom, I'd want her treated by "like-minded conservatives" a bit nicer. With patience, not leftie-like intolerance. We are, after all, NOT despicable leftists.

Yeah, we're mad and we're not gonna take it any more. But let's not take it out on a potential voter for our side.

Other than that, I agree.

2,368 posted on 11/29/2009 1:48:19 PM PST by XenaLee
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