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China, US put climate targets on table
The Australian ^ | November 26, 2009 | Brad Norington

Posted on 11/26/2009 6:37:48 AM PST by myknowledge

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To: rbg81
China will cut the intensity of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of gross domestic product in 2020 by 40 to 45 per cent from 2005 levels,

They have no intention of cutting actual carbon emissions, only the ratio of carbon to GDP. So if their GDP triples their carbon emissions would still rise by 150 to 200%.

They are going to lower their ratio with a massive program to build nuclear power plants. Something that could also be done in the U.S.

21 posted on 11/26/2009 7:22:52 AM PST by BigBobber
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They have no intention of cutting actual carbon emissions, only the ratio of carbon to GDP. So if their GDP triples their carbon emissions would still rise by 150 to 200%.


Ahh....I see said the blind man.


22 posted on 11/26/2009 7:51:57 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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I agree. What is really going on? China and India’s refusal to go along with CO2 BS was a reason for those who didn’t believe in global warming to state that our manufacturing would continue to move offshore. The question is why is China aiding Obozo in imposing a carbon tax on the American people.

It looks like the goose that laid the golden eggs (the American people)is going to get slaughtered if the Chinese have a say.


23 posted on 11/26/2009 8:07:08 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: agere_contra
Do the Chinese not read the news?

When you have a media that is state controlled (just like ours) you only get to read what they want you to read.

24 posted on 11/26/2009 8:25:29 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: rbg81

[[I’m frankly shocked that they would even make such a statement. One has to ask, what’s in it for them? What deals have been cut under the table? Something is up.]]

Absolutely somethign is up for them- as well as for Obama and the scam artists on the left- $$- plain and simple- they get to fine anyone that doesn’t comply, they get to impose taxes and ‘carbon credits’ which go directly into their coffers.

‘man-caused’ Global warmign has just been exposed as a collossal fraud, but htis isn’t slowing htese scam artists down one iota


25 posted on 11/26/2009 8:29:22 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Sacajaweau
somehow I'm not thinking China is being, um, well, honest about this. Their cities are horrendous and not a lot of incentive to make it better.
26 posted on 11/26/2009 8:31:25 AM PST by tenger (If we don't stay on 'em, they'll get it wrong -Soucheray)
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To: businessprofessor

[[This statement is odd: “intensity of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of gross domestic.” The Chinese have contrived a favorable unit of measurement. CO2 levels are the least environmental concern for the Chinese. They have overwhelming problems with air, water, and land pollution as well as grinding poverty in the countryside.

The Europeans are playing games as well.]]

Precisely- and it’s goign to turn into one huge game with these creeps- Yep- they want to clean their air- which is a nobel thing to do I suppose, but they are goign to turn the ‘man-caused’ global warmign scam around to now push this collossal fraud on us all by stating that the issue is no logner about ‘global warming’ but rather about ‘air-quality’, and ‘if we don’t act now, the quality of air will never improve after it’s too late to do anythign about it’

[[Obama wants to use the treaty as cover to impose devasting energy taxes.]]

Exactly- that’s the bottom line- they can spin htis any way they like, but that’s exactly whast it all boils down to- and everyone knows it- but NOONE is standing up agaisnt this criminal extortion

[[and a tax on dirty electricity that will triple electricity rates.]]

Yep- watch the change in the commercials on TV lately- I’m noticing a subtle change from a message where we have to ‘stop global warming’ to one where ‘Carbon power is dirty and unhealthy’- they are REALLY goign after coal right now, which 40% of our industries rely on-

FACT: We are one of hte cleanest industrialized nations on earth right now, and have made major strides in cleanign up our air- yet this has doen nothign to change the climate because we- the world, can NOT change the lcimate one iota even if we all stopped all carbon consumption, and second, our efforts, which have cost businesses billions of dollars, has doen nothign to decrease asthma and lung problems- but commercials and advertisements claim coal is the reason we have higher numbers of asthma cases DESPITE the fact that we’ve cleaned up our environment in recent decades and the numbers of cases of asthma is INCREASING, NOT decreasing

The LIES and the SPIN these creeps and thugs use to con America are unconscionable! We Really shoudl send Senator Inhofe to copenhagen to drill it into the scammers heads that man is NOT to blame for global wamring- Obama- the main scammer, is NOT qualified to discuss this issue in Copenhagen- but we the peopel can do nothign but sit back and watch him singlehandedly destroy htis coutnry all based on a LIE which he and his cornies got caught perpetrating

VERY frustrating- He WILL simply ignore the climategate scandal and destroy htis country, and he will con other countries into goign along with him, while the rest of us look on in stunned silence- unable to beleive he is gettign awqay with it


27 posted on 11/26/2009 8:44:26 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: agere_contra
Do the Chinese not read the news?

What's a little lyin' among comrades, eh? *wink, wink*

HF

28 posted on 11/26/2009 9:58:06 AM PST by holden
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To: rbg81

This may shine some light:

http://www.energy.gov/news/5662.htm

from
October 24, 2007


29 posted on 11/26/2009 10:05:08 AM PST by hyperconservative (Heartfelt humble thanks to the Great Whistleblower(s) at CRU!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

For the Chicoms, it’s all talk no action.


30 posted on 11/27/2009 4:36:08 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

And they know Obama is a gullible fool.


31 posted on 11/27/2009 5:05:51 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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