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To: Moe Tzadik; Jeff Head
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Might consider adding "A. Ishmael" - the name Cho chose before he shot 57, killing 32.

In addition to sharing Muslim names and committing mass murder of unarmed innocents with Nidal Hasan, they both attended the same school, Viginia Tech, at apparently the same time - Not random chance from where I sit.

I remember going into that, quite extensively, when it was on Free Republic and digging up all the information and sources on that and its significance and relation to Islam and/or Muslims. The fact of the matter is that it was non-existant -- any information connecting Cho to Islam or Muslim terrorists.

The only (so-called) "connection" is simply that they engage in mass killings of strangers having no direct relation to them -- and that's not an exclusive Muslim distinctive (although they do engage in it).

There's simply not any kind of adequate connection to put Cho in the Muslim terrorist category -- other than sheer speculation and supposition.

35 posted on 11/22/2009 2:40:52 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler; Moe Tzadik
I have also looked at it pretty extensively. Cho's manifesto and his emails (which there have been tons of them posted) make absolutely no mention of any Islamic Jihad connection.

There was no "Allah Akbar" while he was doing it.

I do not counted the VA Tech massacre as a SJS. Something a whole lot more concrete would have to come up, and at this point I do not expect that is going to happen.

44 posted on 11/22/2009 2:57:52 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Star Traveler; Jeff Head
"The fact of the matter is that it was non-existant -- any information connecting Cho to Islam or Muslim terrorists.

Except of course that he took a muslim name and ritually shaved before he entered paradise, made a jihad martyrdom video and had it delivered to the media.

The name he chose, Ishmael, the Quran regards as a Prophet and is one of the most profound Islamic names.

You also may want to review a video where Azzam al-Amriki references "Ishmael."

Ishmael also likes knives about the neck, in the traditional Islamic fashion.

"The only (so-called) 'connection' is simply that they engage in mass killings of strangers having no direct relation to them -- and that's not an exclusive Muslim distinctive (although they do engage in it)."

You've completely neglected the "Ishmael" connection in my first post, the name he took prior to entering paradise. He signed his body with it and used that name to deliver the martyrdom video.

"There's simply not any kind of adequate connection to put Cho in the Muslim terrorist category -- other than sheer speculation and supposition."

Not true, as I've just pointed out. There's plenty more but I see it is a lost cause here.

69 posted on 11/22/2009 6:07:39 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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