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To: jveritas

Agreed that there is one more 60-threshold vote, but this vote too should have been stalled. One has to use every tactic to prevent socialism. I am not as hopeful as you are for the final vote. I think Olympia Snowe will defect and use Lieberman’s defection in this round as an excuse. They won’t take responsibility for ushering in socialism and will point that they voted against the bill in one of the two cloture votes.


50 posted on 11/21/2009 8:01:55 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne
Let's look at this with fresh eyes by way of analogy.

It's the early 1940’s and Hitler is unstoppable. He is winning on all fronts and his juggernaut is piercing into Russia. He is destroying everything and anyone.

Moscow is in sight and the Nazi panzer divisions are on the outskirts about to crush the city. And then the overlooked anihilates Hitler. The Russian winter does what no army could do and the Nazis have to retreat and abandon the siege of Russia.

This thread reminds me of that scenario. The Democrats are the Nazis of the 1940’s unstopable and winning everything;yet, I believe that there is a Russian winter that is about to crush them.

It won't be the Republicans. It won't be the tea parties. It won't be the voters.

It will be the dollar. Currency markets are 100 times bigger then all governments put together. The dollar is collapsing at an unprecedented rate. Gold has gone from $700 last November to $1140 now which is a disaster of biblical proportions. It is heading to $2000 no doubt by January 2011 and then way way beyond that. This is making expenditures more and more difficult.

The collapse of the dollar is a day by day event now. the US government cannot stop it and has lost control of the economy. This condition is the democrat's Russian winter. This vote to start the debate is the equivalent of the Nazis being on the outskirts of Leningrad while the Russian winter is freezing everything in place and making victory impossible. Hitler's generals told him not to do it and wait for favorable weather. His hubris engineered his failure.

The democrats should have waited to do this health care bill. Their hubris is now engineering their demise. They are standing outside Moscow about to be defeated. Remember no one could imagine Hitler's demiseduring the Russian campaign. No one can imagine the democrat's demise and it is coming from the dollar's collapse.

The demise of the dollar will crush any hope of moving forward. This is now a day by day event and will dictate retreat to the democrats.

As they retreat, the vacuum is going to usher in the opposition which is not quite in focus just yet.

Pay attention to the currency markets. They are now the puppet masters not the democrats.

125 posted on 11/21/2009 9:38:35 PM PST by GilGil
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To: JimWayne
Let's look at this with fresh eyes by way of analogy.

It's the early 1940’s and Hitler is unstoppable. He is winning on all fronts and his juggernaut is piercing into Russia. He is destroying everything and anyone.

Moscow is in sight and the Nazi panzer divisions are on the outskirts about to crush the city. And then the overlooked anihilates Hitler. The Russian winter does what no army could do and the Nazis have to retreat and abandon the siege of Russia.

This thread reminds me of that scenario. The Democrats are the Nazis of the 1940’s unstopable and winning everything;yet, I believe that there is a Russian winter that is about to crush them.

It won't be the Republicans. It won't be the tea parties. It won't be the voters.

It will be the dollar. Currency markets are 100 times bigger then all governments put together. The dollar is collapsing at an unprecedented rate. Gold has gone from $700 last November to $1140 now which is a disaster of biblical proportions. It is heading to $2000 no doubt by January 2011 and then way way beyond that. This is making expenditures more and more difficult.

The collapse of the dollar is a day by day event now. the US government cannot stop it and has lost control of the economy. This condition is the democrat's Russian winter. This vote to start the debate is the equivalent of the Nazis being on the outskirts of Leningrad while the Russian winter is freezing everything in place and making victory impossible. Hitler's generals told him not to do it and wait for favorable weather. His hubris engineered his failure.

The democrats should have waited to do this health care bill. Their hubris is now engineering their demise. They are standing outside Moscow about to be defeated. Remember no one could imagine Hitler's demiseduring the Russian campaign. No one can imagine the democrat's demise and it is coming from the dollar's collapse.

The demise of the dollar will crush any hope of moving forward. This is now a day by day event and will dictate retreat to the democrats.

As they retreat, the vacuum is going to usher in the opposition which is not quite in focus just yet.

Pay attention to the currency markets. They are now the puppet masters not the democrats.

130 posted on 11/21/2009 9:40:43 PM PST by GilGil
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