Posted on 11/21/2009 8:49:06 AM PST by cold start
New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference.
Addressing the seminar, Jethmalani wondered if the jehadi doctrine, propagating the belief allegedly held by Islam's Wahab sect that Muslims attaining martyrdom while fighting non-Muslims "get a place in heaven and the company of the opposite sex there", does not amount to saying that "god is a brothel keeper".
The self-confessed maverick legal hawk also went on to equate god as someone "suffering with Alzheimer's disease", while advising the Indian government and the international community against trusting god in fighting terrorism.
"He will not help as he is suffering with Alzheimer's disease," said Jethmalani, while advising the government to junk its obsession with "an irrelevant non-aligned movement" and "join the forces of good to fight forces of evil".
Jethmalani made "the non-mincing" remarks at an international conference of jurists on terrorism, inaugurated by President Pratibha Patil and attended among others by Singapore Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong and Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh of the International Court of Justice and envoys of several countries.
Jethmalani's remarks caused Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to India Faisal-al-Trad to walk out, while an embarrassed union Law Minister M. Veerappa Moily swiftly sought to distance himself and the government from the controversial remarks.
Justice Khasawneh contradicted Jethmalani on some facts referred to by him on the jehadi doctrine.
Jethmalani made the remark while dwelling upon the need to fight terrorism also at its ideological level.
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"I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace," said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.
"But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran," said Jethmalani.
"I have read that shora thousands of times, but I have not found anything wrong in it. But, according to Wahab, all other people, including Christians, Jews and Hindus, and even Shias, have forfeited their rights to live," said Jethmalani.
Following Jethmalani's speech, Saudi Arabia's Ambassador Faisal-al-Trad was seen walking out of the conference, apparently taking offence at the remarks.
Organiser of the event Adesh Aggarwala said the ambassador had walked out but returned after Moily's statement that the views expressed by Jethmalani were not that of the government.
Moily, in his address, said that terrorism cannot be attributed to any particular religion.
It was unfortunate that the entire Islam as a religion was being blamed for terrorism, Jethmalani said, adding that "there are also Hindu terrorists and Buddhist terrorists".
Terming the Non-Aligned Movement and Panchsheel as evil, Jethmalani said "India should align with forces of good to combat the forces of evil. India and its foreign ministers must learn to reassess the doctrines of past".
He said India's foreign policy establishment should be courageous to shun any relationship with the country's 'enemies'.
Referring to Jethmalani's comments, Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh, a judge of the International Court of Justice, asked him not "to make sweeping statements". He also said that the Wahab movement had started in the 18th century and not in 17th century as Jethmalani had remarked.
prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conferenceHey, if it's that easy, we'll have CAIR right the hell out of our country in no time. Mohammed was a mass-murdering pedophile!
Do you mean the ones here or the ones there?
I was intrigued by this remark and started digging into the politics of India. What I found amazed me. Communists and Muslims rule the roost in India despite Hindus being in majority. Even the Sharia law is legal in India and the term "Hindu fundamentalist" or "Hindu nationalist" is the term invented by Western liberals to describe Hindus who demand equal treatment. There are a lot of laws appeasing the Muslims in India and Europe has followed India in this regard. We are now on the same path of destruction. The one difference between us and India is that Hindus do not care for political correctness and they dish it out like it is. Our liberals are the ones who brand them as fascists and fundamentalists.
“Mohammed’s promise of an Islamic Paradise that glittered with the fulfillment of all sorts of wordly desires and sense enjoyment was nothing but a sinister ploy to recruit those who had no hope or expectation of ever getting these things in their present lives.” .................................. So I guess they should revise it a little, and add a new car, Wii, 60” projection TV, new video games every year, et.al.. Ya can’t spend all your time on 72 virgins and little boys. Geeeez, Allah could have solved all the sex promises with an “orgazmatron ball”, which would leave time for the 72 virgins to go shopping. Folks as I’ve said over and over again, its not a religious struggle, its mainly a struggle of good vs. evil.
Well, it’s a good question. Where does he get all these virgins? After they’ve been shtupped, are they then passed around to staff officers who died of clap during a Jihad? Is getting shtupped by dead jihadis their hell? Furthermore, wouldn’t doing it with virgins get real dull after a while? Why not someone with a bit of experience, who knows a few tricks, and lost all her inhibitions a while ago? It seems to me that would-be jihadis ought to think this through more thoroughly before strapping on a suicide vest.
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
It says a lot about Arabia and the mistreatment of women back in the 6th century if they, according to Mohammed, mostly went to Hell after death.
Next, he needs to ask if any sane person could consider a pedophile serial killer to be a prophet, and if so, a prophet of what sort of deity?
Maybe they get serviced by the “boys like pearls,” whenever they aren’t servicing the dead jihadis.
Muslims are into porno and mild-molestation. Jesus never said, “Do this and I’ll give you virgins”, the muslims do, though. Perverts.
India’s leaders don’t seem to be hampered with the same political correctness that ours are. Perhaps they are not as reliant on Saudi oil...??
What does Allah promise women who martyr themselves? 72 pairs of shoes?
I’m glad you all like “The X rated paradise of Islam”..... Been up on the internet for ages courtesy of a Hindu author
The Hindus have been “nuking” Islam on the internet for years. The serious Hindus have no PC to weigh them down and have been experiencing Islam’s depredations for centuries. They know their subject matter from first hand experience
None the less, Hindus are held back in their own country by weird attitudes of accommodation to communism socialism and Muslims. Just as you say. In 1948 you had the great partition of India and Paki-land. Back then Muslims were 2% of India. This has climbed up to 14% as of a few years ago (last time I looked)
So you have this problem in India of Muslims swamping the Hindus
Just damn!
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