Posted on 11/21/2009 8:49:06 AM PST by cold start
New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference.
Addressing the seminar, Jethmalani wondered if the jehadi doctrine, propagating the belief allegedly held by Islam's Wahab sect that Muslims attaining martyrdom while fighting non-Muslims "get a place in heaven and the company of the opposite sex there", does not amount to saying that "god is a brothel keeper".
The self-confessed maverick legal hawk also went on to equate god as someone "suffering with Alzheimer's disease", while advising the Indian government and the international community against trusting god in fighting terrorism.
"He will not help as he is suffering with Alzheimer's disease," said Jethmalani, while advising the government to junk its obsession with "an irrelevant non-aligned movement" and "join the forces of good to fight forces of evil".
Jethmalani made "the non-mincing" remarks at an international conference of jurists on terrorism, inaugurated by President Pratibha Patil and attended among others by Singapore Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong and Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh of the International Court of Justice and envoys of several countries.
Jethmalani's remarks caused Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to India Faisal-al-Trad to walk out, while an embarrassed union Law Minister M. Veerappa Moily swiftly sought to distance himself and the government from the controversial remarks.
Justice Khasawneh contradicted Jethmalani on some facts referred to by him on the jehadi doctrine.
Jethmalani made the remark while dwelling upon the need to fight terrorism also at its ideological level.
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"I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace," said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.
"But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran," said Jethmalani.
"I have read that shora thousands of times, but I have not found anything wrong in it. But, according to Wahab, all other people, including Christians, Jews and Hindus, and even Shias, have forfeited their rights to live," said Jethmalani.
Following Jethmalani's speech, Saudi Arabia's Ambassador Faisal-al-Trad was seen walking out of the conference, apparently taking offence at the remarks.
Organiser of the event Adesh Aggarwala said the ambassador had walked out but returned after Moily's statement that the views expressed by Jethmalani were not that of the government.
Moily, in his address, said that terrorism cannot be attributed to any particular religion.
It was unfortunate that the entire Islam as a religion was being blamed for terrorism, Jethmalani said, adding that "there are also Hindu terrorists and Buddhist terrorists".
Terming the Non-Aligned Movement and Panchsheel as evil, Jethmalani said "India should align with forces of good to combat the forces of evil. India and its foreign ministers must learn to reassess the doctrines of past".
He said India's foreign policy establishment should be courageous to shun any relationship with the country's 'enemies'.
Referring to Jethmalani's comments, Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh, a judge of the International Court of Justice, asked him not "to make sweeping statements". He also said that the Wahab movement had started in the 18th century and not in 17th century as Jethmalani had remarked.
LOL smackin the hornet’s nest with a baseball bat.
The real question is, what does this belief say about the fate of Muslim women who die virgins? Are they condemned to an eternity of sexually servicing dismembered (haha) suicide terrorists?
SnakeDoc
He was a few grapes short of a box of raisins.
After thousands of years of brutal warfare, most of the world’s religions have come to a peaceful co-existence among themselves, which permits nonviolent theological debate, and good natured ribbing. The only exception is Islam. Islam seems to be at war with every other religion it has encountered, even other versions of itself.
Can I nominate Ram Jetmalani for the Nobel Peace Prize? He certainly deserves it more than the current laureate.
Pardise for muslims is sex w/ virgins — a very worldly view.
Jesus: “I am not of this world.”
Islam has so many holes in it. They keep their believers ignorant.
Off with the infidel’s head!
right on!!!
every jihadist is promised 72 virgins and a most erotic eternity with Allah and the girls... with allah being gateman of the hore house in the sky. Only one problem it costs you your life and soul to enter and meet allah the great hoe meister....
more and more, he sounds like the devil
how can you say thats a short of box of raisins?
Envision a smallish dark complected man wearing a Fez type hat saying this to a group of muzzy fanatics. Close your eyes.
teheteheeeBWWWHAAAAAA!! LOL!!
Good for him. More honesty about Islam is exactly what is needed.
I look forward to the throngs of self-emasculating Musims in the street.
72 Helen Thomas clones await the faithful ;-)
More than 13 years ago the Hindus were first on the internet giving the real lowdown on Islam and their pedophile prophet’s marriage to six year old Aisha.
Google -— Islam’s x rated paradise — A real classic by the Hindus
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html
“Sunis are just shia who herd goats with a condom”.
lol. You had better watch out. That kind of joke is a fatwa offense to a Muslim.
Technically incorrect. The 72 virgins are not "the opposite sex" because they are not human. They are houris, spirit creatures in the shape of beautiful women, designed by Allah to please men who make it to heaven.
As I understand it, the Koran is vague on the reward of righteous Muslim women after death.
"Islamokazes skulk around in mufti, and target unarmed and unsuspecting women and children, in the hopes of getting an admission ticket to their pig-dog-god’s whorehouse in the sky. They are lower that the meanest cockroach."
Nice to hear that the truth is getting out there....
“72 Helen Thomas clones await the faithful ;-)”
How can she not be a virgin?
“I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace,” said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.
“But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran,” said Jethmalani.
Obviously, Jethalani has no handle on Islams history of violence and aggressive violent expansion. It goes straight to mohammed back at the 7th century.
How else did they conquer all of the lands around the mediteraenean? It was the devil and his minion Jihadists, every last one of them.
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