[PreciousLiberty]

“I wish I shared your optimism. These days a group Nobel Prize is just as likely.”

The science prizes aren’t like the Peace Prize. ;-)

Seriously, I think the vast majority of scientists are honest and support the scientific method. They’re well aware that the entire credibility of science rests on it. Don’t forget the thousands of scientists who signed anti-CAGW petitions based strictly on the science.

When an a group of “scientists” subverts the scientific method to this extent, the scientific community will turn on them like a wolf pack that’s suddenly realized some of them are poodles. They have to, and it’ll be just about that ugly.

[InterceptPoint]

When an a group of “scientists” subverts the scientific method to this extent, the scientific community will turn on them like a wolf pack that’s suddenly realized some of them are poodles.

I hate to sound like a broken record but I'm skeptical that will actually take place. Science these days has become too much of a "follow the money" kind of business. The Grants are the source of the income for many if not most of the "Climate Scientists" and this story will not stop that money train.

And, if Al Gore can win a Nobel Prize, albeit a Peace Prize, so can these guys. The Nobel Prize process is just as corrupt as these supposed scientists from CRU.

[PapaBear3625]

Seriously, I think the vast majority of scientists are honest and support the scientific method. They’re well aware that the entire credibility of science rests on it. Don’t forget the thousands of scientists who signed anti-CAGW petitions based strictly on the science.

When an a group of “scientists” subverts the scientific method to this extent, the scientific community will turn on them like a wolf pack that’s suddenly realized some of them are poodles. They have to, and it’ll be just about that ugly.

I've known a few scientists. Some of them are honest seekers of truth. Others are just hungry for the next grant.

The danger to both groups is that, if the public starts to perceive research as just a fake PR effort for the agenda of whatever faction controls the grant process, this would create opposition from the public for spending government money for scientific research in general.

When scientists perceive their own careers in danger, they WILL turn on these guys.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

“Seriously, I think the vast majority of scientists are honest and support the scientific method. “

I agree, to a point. As funding becomes tougher to get a lot of corners get cut. There’s no doubt about this. In most places whether or not you have a job depends on whether or not you have federal funding. There’s a huge incentive to convince yourself that your data show what you want the data to show.

[hinckley buzzard]

Fifty years ago I would have agreed with you. Today the "scientific community" is a fiction, a defanged bunch who are largely intimidated by university faculty promotion and tenure committees. They are beholden to grant-making foundations and institutions, led by government funding agencies, most of which are corrupted by the leftwing extremists among them.

Notwithstanding the courageous truthtellers we do have, the fact is that if the "scientific community" couldn't even mount a campaign of truth aganst the likes of Algore, they won't rise up en mass now.