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Glenn Beck to announce ‘big plan’ for 2010
Politico ^ | 11/20/2009 | Kenneth P. Vogel

Posted on 11/20/2009 3:03:42 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction

Glenn Beck, the controversial Fox News television host, is planning on becoming more active in the populist conservative movement he spawned, according to sources familiar with his thinking.

At a rally Saturday at a massive retirement community in central Florida, Beck is planning to unveil what he has billed as a “big plan” for 2010, which is expected to involve the 9.12 Project, the group he started earlier this year and named for the day after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, when he says the nation was unified.

“Coming this January, my whole approach changes on this program,” he hinted cryptically on his Wednesday show. “This next year is going to be critical and I think it's going to change and I think we are going to set it right, at least set our course right. And if that means the Democrats or the Republicans are destroyed along the way, well, good. Good.”

Beck's Saturday rally, which is set for 3 p.m. will be broadcast live on Fox, and is timed to coincide with the kickoff of a tour promoting his new book, “Arguing with Idiots.”

After Beck unveiled his 9.12 Project, dozens if not hundreds of local 912 groups sprung up across the country and some have merged in purpose and tactics with the Tea Party movement of conservatives that exploded onto the scene this summer. Though the local 912 groups clearly look to Beck as their de-facto leader, they maintain no formal ties to Beck’s 9.12 Project.

The 9.12 Project is co-sponsoring a march on Washington on Sept. 11, 2010 partly to protest the policies of President Barack Obama and Congress. A source said the talk show host is not going to attend, but is planning to become more involved in 912 movement activities.

The 2010 march – called the “We the People Restore Our Constitution March, Rally and 9/11 Memorial” – is planned for Washington’s National Mall. Its other co-sponsor is an online activism group called ResistNet.com.

ResistNet’s Darla Dawald credited Beck with setting in motion the march, but said he’s not involved in its planning. “Glenn doesn’t want it to be about him – always about the people,” Dawald, who is leading march planning for ResistNet, wrote in an email. “He wanted the 9.12 Project people (grassroots) to be involved and step forward – not him.”

Christine Drawdy, a Florida event promoter involved in the Tea Party and 912 movements who is listed as the travel coordinator for the 2010 march, said the permit for the march is in the name of The 9.12 Project’s administrator, Yvonne Donnelly.

Though Drawdy stressed that Beck “is not the leader of” the 912 movement, she added “all he has to do is say something and they’ll jump.”

ResistNet’s Dawald said she was asked to join the march planning effort by Donnelly, who works with Beck on the 9.12 Project website but did not respond to an email message.

Beck has emerged as a potentially potent populist force in conservative politics, as evidenced by the response to his broadcast in March urging viewers to try to recreate a united America, calling out politicians for leading the nation astray, and unveiling the 9.12 Project.

Local 912 groups sprang up, and many credited Beck’s on-air promotions with the huge turnout at the Sept. 12, 2009 “Taxpayer March on Washington,” where some waved “Glenn Beck for President” and said Beck spurred them to become politically active for the first time.

But Beck’s 9.12 Project played no role in sponsoring or planning this year’s march, nor did he attend it. He has mostly not involved himself personally in any of the 912 movement activities, and has downplayed characterizations that he is leading the movement.

Nonetheless, Fox News has drawn fire from media ethicists and liberals alike for breathlessly promoting Tea Party marches, and for whipping up the crowd at the Sept. 12 rally.

The 912 Project website, which is maintained by Mercury Radio Arts, Beck’s production company but hosted by Fox News, lists the march among many other upcoming 912 events, and provides a link for subscribers to sign up.

The FoxNews.com logo adorns the lower right hand corner of the 912 Project homepage, which indicates it is “Brought to you by FOXNews.com” and links to the network’s website.

Publicists for Fox News and Mercury Radio Arts did not respond to questions about the announcement, or the roles of Beck, Fox or Mercury in The 9.12 Project or planning the march.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010midterms; 912project; beck; foxnews; glennbeck; gopcomeback; talkradio; teaparty
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To: af_vet_rr
Ok let us break it down in a way that maybe might finally penetrate the fog or mindless angst you keep yourself in.

I suspect that like Beck you were raised a Democrat and just cannot bear, even now, to hold "your team" accountable for it's actions. So instead of dealing with the world as it is, you, like Beck, manufacture this rationalization to shout at both sides equally rather then have to rationally confront the facts and hold "your team" accountable for it's acts.

So put your angst on hold and consider things rationally for just a heartbeat. You can go back to your mindless rage afterward.

You cannot get enough Conservative/Libertarians organized to take over the political machinery of the GOP. Yet some how you think you are magically going to get enough people organized to set up a politically viable third party.

Did you even stop for a heartbeat to think about the fundamental illogic of that notion? You can see the coming trainwreck of "The Plan" from here.

If Beck does NOT set up a third party, your sort will go back to your mindless raging only now Beck will be your target in place of the GOP. He will have "sold you out".

If he does try to form a new party, it will be viable only as long as you all agree on every single issue. As soon as an issue comes up that you do NOT all agree on, your sort will go back to screaming your rage at what ever equivalent of "RINO" the factions in your new party create.

141 posted on 11/21/2009 3:02:51 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: MNJohnnie
I suspect that like Beck you were raised a Democrat

Way off - I was a registered Republican before you were probably even born, and was raised a Republican.

You cannot get enough Conservative/Libertarians organized to take over the political machinery of the GOP. Yet some how you think you are magically going to get enough people organized to set up a politically viable third party.

So what if I can't get enough Conservatives to take over the GOP - does that mean I should submit to the moderates (liberals) who run the GOP and blindly follow them?
142 posted on 11/21/2009 3:30:27 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: MNJohnnie
As for Beck, he's clearly not out to setup a third party - he revealed "the plan" is just another book he's working on. He's like Palin as far as I'm concerned - he may say some things I agree with, but I have plenty of issues with him just like I do with Palin. I don't think either one of them is capable of even setting up or running a third party, although plenty of people have bought into the cult of personality surrounding both of them, and think they can.

The issues I have with the GOP sliding to the left go back a lot further, well before any of us had heard of Beck or Palin, and arguably before most of us had heard of Limbaugh.
143 posted on 11/21/2009 3:42:58 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
What is it about you screamers that you NEVER remember who took control of Congress in Jan 2007?

The Democrats have controlled both houses of Congress since January 2007. The Democrats Congress is responsible for most the stuff you endlessly bitch at the GOP about. I will grant you that Bush should of vetoed it but to exclusively blame the GOP, as you do, for what the Democrat Congress created is extremely moronic.

144 posted on 11/21/2009 3:52:19 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Time to move outside the comfort zone. Time to revolt and refuse to participate if this health care passes as it is now.


145 posted on 11/21/2009 3:53:54 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: MNJohnnie
The Democrats have controlled both houses of Congress since January 2007. The Democrats Congress is responsible for most the stuff you endlessly bitch at the GOP about. I will grant you that Bush should of vetoed it but to exclusively blame the GOP, as you do, for what the Democrat Congress created is extremely moronic.

I'm not talking about what the Democrats did - I expect them to act like liberals. I'm talking about all of the crap that was pushed through under Bush and the Republican Congress prior to 2007 that led to the largest, most expensive, most intrusive, most powerful government in our history.

I'm talking about things like the PATRIOT Act and the other big brother-like programs that Bush pushed and Congress gladly signed off on for the most part, the bailout of the airline industry that was having problems well before 9/11, the expansion of the federal government and its various agencies, Bush pushing "compassionate conservatism" which is really just code words for "the government will take care of you", Bush and Congress' criticism of the patriots who were concerned with our border security, the desire to leave the borders open and work as slowly as possible on a border fence while we take off our shoes at the airports and get our laptops looked at by people who have a hard time working the cash register at a McDonald's, Bush's (and McCain's) would-be attempts at amnesty and the guest-worker stuff, No Child Left Behind which is intrusive government at its finest - trying (and succeeding) to get the federal government involved in what should be local school matters, and so on and so forth.

It took a Republican President and a Republican Congress to push all of those through, and much of that will be abused by the Democrats and used against us. We haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the Democrats abusing everything that was pushed through by Republicans from 2001 - 2006.
146 posted on 11/21/2009 4:15:16 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: MNJohnnie

I’m still curious to hear your reasoning behind claiming that 3rd parties never achieve anything other than political irrelevance, given that the Republican party started out as a third party.


147 posted on 11/21/2009 4:17:19 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
the Republican party started out as a third party.

It does no matter how often you repeat this, it isn't true. The Whig party collapsed immediately after the election of 1852. At that point there was a one party system. The GOP formed in 1854. At the same time the American Party formed. In 1856 a coalition of the Republicans and the American Party took control of Congress. Within two years the American Party fell apart in the slavery crisis, leaving the GOP as the second party.

148 posted on 11/21/2009 4:40:23 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (a wild-eyed, exclusionist, birther religio-beast -- Daily Kos)
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To: Liz
KEEP IN MIND >> Some 80% of the federal stim (read slush fund) remains unspent. Ohaha is saving it to finance 2010 Dem candidates. >> Ohaha placed Biden in charge of the stim disbursement.

I am not sure it will work. I am hearing 2010 is going to make 09' look like a cakewalk.

Commerical paper is non existant for businesses.

Banks hording cash to cover the potential Commerical Real Estate Collapse.

Unless they pass this around as in walking around money, they can't get it in the pipeline fast enough to make a difference of the 2 tusnami's I mentioned that are here or coming.

149 posted on 11/21/2009 4:53:59 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: newfreep
...I might go along with that, if conservatives get rid of the GOP hacks that fooked this congress up along time ago...

...BTW, it is the third party movement that has repubs scared sh!tless. and it's about time these turds woke up. The only problem is they're too late, to get on the ship, because most conservatives see through their fake fookin’ sanctimony...

150 posted on 11/21/2009 5:07:53 PM PST by gargoyle (...I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: humblegunner
I'm gone!

Yeah, sure. You'll be back though, using another name. Probably something like 'humblimbaugh'.

151 posted on 11/21/2009 5:12:13 PM PST by jla
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To: humblegunner

...or ‘El Gunno’


152 posted on 11/21/2009 5:14:03 PM PST by jla
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To: manonCANAL

...Heard about them on Quinn and Rose a couple of weeks ago. These folks need our utmost support, to follow the Constitution and not the COC, POSPOTUS, congress, or anyone of these criminals in elected office. Bravo...


153 posted on 11/21/2009 5:33:32 PM PST by gargoyle (...I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
It does no matter how often you repeat this, it isn't true. The Whig party collapsed immediately after the election of 1852. At that point there was a one party system. The GOP formed in 1854. At the same time the American Party formed. In 1856 a coalition of the Republicans and the American Party took control of Congress. Within two years the American Party fell apart in the slavery crisis, leaving the GOP as the second party.

Your own post illustrates that there have been times in our history where there were more than two parties exerting influence on the political system, and it even points raises the issue of a coalition of two or more parties with some mutual interests, something I hadn't raised. You bring up a very good point - let the Conservatives leave the GOP since the GOP isn't interested in us, but we can still work together in a coalition on certain key issues against the Democrats..

You still haven't addressed whether or not I and other Conservatives should just bow down before the moderate and liberal Republicans and just shut up and do what we are told rather than seek our fortunes elsewhere if we are unable to exert any influence within the party.
154 posted on 11/21/2009 8:08:26 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
My apology, I confused you with one of the other posts on my last comment.

Still, you bring up a good scenario and I appreciate it. Why couldn't the moderate GOP work with a Conservative third party in a coalition?
155 posted on 11/21/2009 8:12:46 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Many states have laws which prevent new parties from getting regular ballot access (in New Jersey the GOP barely qualifies sometimes. The law requires that a party must run candidates for the state assembly who receive 35% of the total vote to stay on the ballot).

As to what to do with liberal Republicans, infiltrate, take over, and purge their rear ends out!!


156 posted on 11/21/2009 8:33:32 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (a wild-eyed, exclusionist, birther religio-beast -- Daily Kos)
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To: rockabyebaby; ConjunctionJunction; who knows what evil?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2391885/posts

http://www.youtube.com/user/mediamatters4america#p/u/3/t3UvZKR_ld4


157 posted on 11/22/2009 1:54:50 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: rockabyebaby

Forget the last post, see here........

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2391937/posts


158 posted on 11/22/2009 4:26:30 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: rockabyebaby

I, for one, have given up on going cap in hand to the current crop of Republicans, mewling and puking to please please please pretty please be conservative.

They want my vote, they need to speak their piece in a conservative forum - and tell the truth.


159 posted on 11/22/2009 5:24:05 AM PST by P.O.E. (- End road work.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Do you really believe this absurdity? Neither Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh agree with your assessment. They believe the solution is to take back their GOP, not run away.

LOL!!! They completely agree with my assessment, in fact, it was THEIR assessment! Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh said NO to the republican candidate in NY. That's a FACT, Jack. You can pretend it didn't happen, but that just puts you hiding in the closet of delusion with Michael Steele.

Did you people learn nothing from the implosion of Perot's Reform party in the late 1990s? If you cannot even get organized enough to take back the GOP from the RINO, it is utter insanity to think you can form a viable third party.

"you people"...just wonderful, thank you. As to the rest, well, "we people" (Conservatives and Libertarians) told "you people" (the RINOs and RINO lickers) to bite us and we carried a HELL of a lot more political weight in that election than "you people" (RINOs and RINO lickers) did. And don't forget - Sarah and Rush were on our (Conservatives and Libertarians) side! Hey, look, I think McPain just took a dump, maybe you should run over and clean his arse...

160 posted on 11/22/2009 7:20:11 PM PST by thatdewd (2010 is coming soon...and THEY know it! THEY are afraid.)
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