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I like this one from the New Scientist:

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In My Opinion

Wed Nov 25 01:32:47 GMT 2009

my opinion, as i have felt this for a long time, beginning to doubt of course, but new surfacing information like this help. Is that, global warming is a natural occurence, and blaming it on ourselves has from the nearly the beginning, developed from an idea, to a global scam, revolved around taxing every known resource, including our own breath (we emit 5ish pounds of CO2 a day), so were all contributing to the 'problem', gradually resulting in a global goverment being established through the guise of a 'climate treaty' it's happening folks, and this is a very small part of the clear evidence being hidden from us, to, well... f*** us all in the A**

232 posted on 11/24/2009 7:56:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Better Late. . . . .

Wed Nov 25 03:12:48 GMT 2009

It seems I am a little late to add a comment to this controversy. There is a lot of argument over the word "trick" in one of the e-mails. Personally, I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. What concerns me are the e-mails that expose concerted efforts to suppress publication of papers from sceptical scientists, and there is no ambiguity about what is contained in those e-mails. Michael Mann is involved in that correspondence. He was co-author of the fraudulent hockey stick graph. There are several commenters here who expressed the view that this skuldugery does not detract from the scientific efforts of the people concerned. I cannot agree with that. I believe that people who have been shown to indulge in dishonesty and deceit can not be trusted in anything they do. The process of science has always involved creating theories from available data, then making the data openly available to see if others can replicate the results, or conversely find fault in the theory. Open debate then leads to the theory being accepted, modified, or abandoned. This process has been totally corrupted by the participants in this record of e-mails. The only reason I can see for doing that is the knowledge that their theories are wrong, but they don't want to admit it for political or personal gain.


233 posted on 11/24/2009 8:00:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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