(Climate Change Meltdown), Carry_Okie wrote:
DO NOT take your eyes off Copenhagen. All it takes is for Hillary or some other agent of the US government to sign something and we’ll be committed to cap and trade, whether in reality or under the table.
Let's see if I've got this straight. If the USA ruins its economy, and gives all its money to 3rd world countries, China and India might be stupid enough to follow.
What a deal!
Article 2, Section 2 of the constitution: He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;
So we would not necessarily be committed unless the Senate ratifies. Yes, keep your eyes on Copenhagen. But watch the Senate. And watch efforts to change its role in the ratification of treaties.
> DO NOT take your eyes off Copenhagen. You are SO correct! If there's anything we know about "Obama the Man-Child", he is EASILY MANIPULATED by people from whom he seeks APPROVAL. Adoration is Obama's Achilles Heel. This German “Der Spiegel” opinion piece is part of a Leftist effort meant to SHAME der reckless Obama into signing the damn pact. Here's the LAST two paragraphs:
The Copenhagen summit, which is just three weeks away, is not lost yet. But if the worst-case scenario becomes reality at Copenhagen and at the follow-up conferences — if, in other words, world leaders ignore the findings of the global scientific community — then the US will find itself in a very uncomfortable position. America will be seen as the primary culprit of global warming — and this after the US, with its rampant real estate speculation, has given us a global economic crisis which has not only destroyed assets, but pushed 100 million people worldwide into hunger. With that kind of track record, the US hardly has a claim any more to the leadership of the Western world — let alone a Nobel Peace Prize for its leader.
A world of flooded coasts, dried-up rivers and disappearing rainforests will lead to massive refugee movements and conflict. The Nobel Committee should postpone the award of the Nobel Peace Prize from Dec. 10 to Dec. 20. Only if Obama has achieved a convincing deal at the Copenhagen conference will there be a real reason to honor him. |
Deserves repeating:
“DO NOT take your eyes off Copenhagen. All it takes is for Hillary or some other agent of the US government to sign something and we’ll be committed to cap and trade, whether in reality or under the table.”
Very good assessment! 0bama and the dims can't get anything done the right way, but if they have the opportunity they can think of 100 ways to do it illegally or under the table.
IF Hillary aspires to any public office in her future I do not see her getting anywhere near this. I think this will be shuffled off to the umbrella of the UN.
They can sign anything they want at Copenhagen, unless it gets ratified by the Sentate, it won’t mean a thing. There are still some things that Obama can’t do by executive decree (at least for now.)
I don’t think so. Anything signed at Copenhagen is merely a symbolic agreement unless a treaty is ratified by two thirds of the senate. There’s no way that can happen. Cap and trade is DOA in the senate regardless of what happens in Copenhagen.
Agreed. See my last few posts.
No, it does come down to the need for a treaty to be ratified.
We’re not committed to any treaty unless and until it’s approved by the Senate. Obama can sign whatever he wants...it will have the effect as Clinton signing the kyoto Accords. Zilch.