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To: lonestar67
International norms like the ones you are referencing are ridiculous.

Maybe, but as with so many other areas of human endeavour, common sense does not change the facts on the ground or the situation to be dealt with.

The international nuclear consensus is that Israel and the US should be disarmed and the every radicalized state should have nuclear weapons.

Doesn't matter - In addition to being stupid, that goes against all the current non-proliferation treaties. We can ignore all that.

We need to establish norms contrary to the international norms.

Agreed. The current system is stupid.

The US india deal emphasizes the good principal that democracies get nukes and anti-democracies don’t.

It is a good principle only in the eyes of the west. To the other 170 nations of the world, it emphasises that the rules only apply to nations which are not friends of the US and is spun instantly into propaganda from the anti-western brigade. Secondly, in terms of our view that democracies may be trusted with nukes, it seems liklely that China or Russia (Democracy in name only) may feel that non-democracies may be trusted with nukes (Actually, as a side note - Mexico is a democracy. Would you terust them with an arsenal?). At the moment the rules call for anti-proliferation measures. No matter how tempting our reasons are for our own strategic needs, they open avenues to immediately be seized and exploited by other nations, many of which may be inimical to us.

Let's reform the damn treaties properly and amend interantaional law according - that can't regrettably be done unilaterally.

Also, when drafting, we may as well be realistic and acknowledge to ourselves that nukes can't be kept in the bottle forever, so the new laws should specify penalties for unprovoked use, etc. Nukes are a resourcing and engineering problem which means that while it's easy to make it tough to build them, the genie will escape at some point.

43 posted on 11/15/2009 6:08:35 AM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Androcles

You keep discussing this as if the US did it alone.

India and the US made a treaty.

That is good. The future is coalitions of the willing not UN norms of inhumanity.

Democracies are on the rise and they will thwart the anti-democracies such as Pakistan.

That will be the story of the 21st century.

I would rather Mexico have nukes than Pakistan or North Korea.


57 posted on 11/16/2009 7:34:46 AM PST by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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