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To: badbass
I think you really need to sit down and read the Bible.

Romans 3:22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. 27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

Revelation 3:8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.

Revelation 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Pretty much sums it all up.

THROUGHOUT the Bible, salvation and condemnation are talked about.

Jesus himself in Matthew 7:13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

76 posted on 11/13/2009 8:45:48 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

I think the more interesting questions are: (1) what constitutes salvation?, (2) are salvation and eternal life interchangeable concepts or is there a distinction? (3) does “eternal life” refer only to the afterlife or is there a fuller meaning?


80 posted on 11/13/2009 8:49:48 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: mountn man

Your mileage may vary. Something has to bother you before you’ll take the action necessary to dig deeper. I was bothered by the “fact” that billions of people would be burning in an eternal hell, all from a “loving” God who commands us to forgive our enemies. It doesn’t add up, I don’t care who says it does. If that bothers you too, you can find more info by Googling 1 Timothy 4:10. I also learned a lot at www.tentmaker.org.

If it doesn’t bother you - carry on. I’m not out to convince anyone of this, nor will I be convinced that it’s wrong. Like I said, your mileage may vary.


210 posted on 11/14/2009 11:38:18 AM PST by badbass
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