To: PapaBear3625
Jesus went to the Cross because He CHOSE to give himself, not because anybody browbeat Him into itWell there is that bit where he begged his Father not to make him do it, but in the end said, "Let thy will be done."
Doesn't sound entirely voluntary, or at least not particularly cheerful about it.
168 posted on
11/13/2009 12:54:11 PM PST by
Sherman Logan
("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
To: Sherman Logan; PapaBear3625
Jesus went to the Cross because He CHOSE to give himself, not because anybody browbeat Him into it Well there is that bit where he begged his Father not to make him do it, but in the end said, "Let thy will be done." Doesn't sound entirely voluntary, or at least not particularly cheerful about it. Not cheerful ... but somewhere in John doesn't he make clear that he does it of his own free will?
172 posted on
11/13/2009 1:04:29 PM PST by
r9etb
To: Sherman Logan; r9etb
Jesus' words
Matthew 10:45For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." Jesus again
John 10:11"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
And again a few sentences later
John 10:17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my lifeonly to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."
197 posted on
11/13/2009 9:15:52 PM PST by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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