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To: r9etb

My post was written from the perspective of a non-believer such as Ms. Rand.

There is no way she would believe in the ongoing redemption of the world you mention.

Western Civilization not only does not seem to presently be undergoing even “on-going, gradual, incomplete” redemption at the present time. It appears to be going in reverse over much of its former area, at least if we use moral standards and belief in Christ as the standard. Most of Europe is essentially post-Christian at this point.


166 posted on 11/13/2009 12:49:29 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan
My post was written from the perspective of a non-believer such as Ms. Rand.

Ah, now I get it ... having seen your posts elsewhere, I was a bit puzzled by it.

It appears to be going in reverse over much of its former area, at least if we use moral standards and belief in Christ as the standard. Most of Europe is essentially post-Christian at this point.

True ... but does that stand as a refutation of the efficacy of Christian belief, or as confirmation of it?

169 posted on 11/13/2009 12:56:26 PM PST by r9etb
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