Maybe in the circles you run in, but I doubt anyone who really believes that the Bible is the written word of God thinks that there's lies in it.
You simplistic rendering of something that God describes as *windows of heaven* does nothing to weaken the integrity and truthfulness of Scripture.
Do I believe that what you propose is the interpretation of *windows of heaven* is accurate? Absolutely not.
Do I believe that they exist in some manner that we don't fully understand and that the description of them as God gave us is the most accurate that we are able to comprehend? Yes.
“Do I believe that they exist in some manner that we don’t fully understand and that the description of them as God gave us is the most accurate that we are able to comprehend? Yes.”
Can’t you make the same case for the bible’s description of “breathing life” into man, given that the people who existed on earth thousands of years ago were unable to comprehend God’s method of evolution?
Wow—I think we’re making progress! You’re beginning to understand allegory!
Of course not. I'm not trying to weaken the truthfulness of Scripture. I'm trying to show that your standard for what "truth" entails is malleable.
Do I believe that they exist in some manner that we don't fully understand and that the description of them as God gave us is the most accurate that we are able to comprehend?
Pretty much how I feel about the Creation account.
I think its actual *windows* (floodgates) of heaven but its better to use the definition than a Hebrew word that nobody can translate.
As far as I know, the Hebrew word in all its senses refers to openings in a physical barrier. If you don't think there was a real physical barrier with gates/windows/whatever that were opened to let the water through, then you must think the Bible has lies in it. Do you in fact believe there was once a physical barrier in the sky with openings to let water through?
Jesus gives us criteria by which to determine if someone is a follower of His.
I think He told us the criteria He'd be using to determine that. I think He explicitly told us not to try to make that determination ourselves.
But recognizing and pointing out that something doesnt line up with Scripture is necessary, otherwise there would be no way for people on the wrong path to find out.
Pointing out your disagreement with their interpretation is one thing. Labeling them "not a true Christian" is quite another.