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1 posted on 11/11/2009 5:32:01 PM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 11/11/2009 5:34:10 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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Obama is going to use his thug tactics against Israel.


3 posted on 11/11/2009 5:35:31 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: SJackson

Israel should say nobama to islamists like him.


7 posted on 11/11/2009 5:45:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SJackson

Political Jihad....there’s no longer any doubt.


11 posted on 11/11/2009 5:51:43 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama is a DIC....... Ditherer-in-Chief)
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To: SJackson

Trying to be reasonable achieves nothing for Israel. The reasonable is ignored by the principals. So clearly their path lies in being unreasonable.

The old Soviet Union could not pay its scientists great amounts of money as was done in America. So how did they motivate their scientists? By taking away all they had, and leaving them with barely enough to survive. Thus, if they made a valuable discovery, they could be given the merest of rewards, and it would be of great value to them.

Perhaps and extra blanket for their bed. An extra potato with lunch. These are powerful motivators when you are cold and hungry.

So this is how Israel should deal with the Palestinians.

Importantly, in Islam, what truly matters in life is reduced to just one thing: land.

Not peace, not prosperity, not health or wealth. The successful Muslim is one who has increased the land of the Ummah. They are tolerable if the just keep the status quo. But for a Muslim to lose “Muslim land” to infidels is the most terrible thing in the world for them.

They are in shame before their religion, their family and their people.

So when anyone talks to them, land is all they want to talk about. Specifically any and all land they can get. Anything else is unimportant, and are just means to getting land. All the land in the world.

Listen to them, and you will always hear that refrain: land, land, land.

This is why nothing the Israelis can do, other than to surrender all the land of Israel to Muslims, is sufficient. Were the Jews to do this, they could leave in peace, until Muslims again wanted the new land the Jews had occupied.

So the Israelis need to behave like Russians when it comes to land.

When the Palestinians or other Muslims attack them, Israel must always take away some of their land as punishment. Importantly, it must be taken with the clear understanding that it will, and can, never, ever be returned.

No matter what the Palestinians do. No matter what all the other nations of the world do. Never again can that land be “Muslim land”. It does not matter if it is fertile farmland, or barren desert, contaminated with toxic filth.

If it is even mentioned, Israel must end the discussion right there.

Of course, the rest of the world, who do not know of this Muslim eccentricity, will think that Israel is insane. “What does it matter? It is nothing! Just a sliver of land! Worthless!”

But the Muslims will scream like their feet have been immersed in boiling tar. Like they scream about the Golan Heights. Like they scream about any other sliver of land.

Yet there is the key. If Israel is firm that the land will never again be “Muslim land”, and they are even more firm that with the next attack, even more land will be taken away, for once it might actually give the Palestinians pause.

Their only options at that point are to lose more land, and be in disgrace, or to stop attacking, and try through some other connivance to get the land back.

They will scream and cry to the world, demanding the land as a “show of good faith”. They will promise peace and tranquility. They will offer this, and threaten that, and piss and moan. But Israel must be unreasonably firm.

Because if Israel cedes even a square inch of land back, the Palestinians will be emboldened a hundred times over.


14 posted on 11/11/2009 5:59:02 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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For your pingage.


17 posted on 11/11/2009 6:27:08 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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The Road Map had at its core the principle of reciprocity. It required the Arabs to take certain steps to end the conflict (such as end incitement to war and dissolve terrorism), and that would require Israel in the next phase to make some concessions. The Quartet unilaterally declared specifically that reciprocity no longer is required. This means that the Arabs can stall, keep up their terrorism, while the Quartet would expect Israel to make concessions to people demonstrating disinterest in peace. President Obama further unbalanced the agreement by no longer referring to UN Resolution 242 which called for just some Israeli withdrawal, but indicated he wanted a total withdrawal [without justifying it].

22 posted on 11/11/2009 7:43:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Quartet policies are disastrous for Israel and beneficial for war.

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23 posted on 11/11/2009 8:15:04 PM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Dear God, please heal our land. II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SJackson

I could give my diplomatic response to the quartet with one finger.


24 posted on 11/11/2009 10:52:18 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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