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To: Dutchboy88

“Then arm every man woman & child under the same logic.”

Then ALLOW THE INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF armS TO every man woman & EMANCIPATED child under the same logic OF NATURAL LAW.

There, fixed. If people don’t choose to arm themselves for their own defense when they aren’t constrained, then they are no smarter than tree huggers who go into bear country with nothing more to shoot than a camera. SELF defense is not delegatable. But those who optionally-disarmed the victims created the environment where a single shooter could be highly effective. The criminal is at fault, but his effectiveness in mayhem is enhanced or inhibited by the official environment.

It is a logical fallacy to argue from the specific to the general (a photoradar inspired murderer is not a reason to change Arizona’s liberal self defense and weapon’s regulations). Millions of kook-balls get mad at traffic everyday with the only damage being to their own blood pressure but that is hardly news.

In general, allowing people to make their own choices regarding their own self reliance and safety is a character building experience, and a military base should be one of the better, safer learning laboratories for creating adults. Something the military might be expected to consistently encourage.

The over reaction by ‘isolation’ of innocent Japanese you cite is a dreadful black mark on our history and was never proven socially or militarily useful, and has been officially repudiated. But that doesn’t negate the argument in the general case that virulent and pathological subcultures such as some gangs, militant Islamism, or inter-generational communists on Medicare might benefit a free society by getting a free cattle-car ride before being treated for lead deficiency.


39 posted on 11/09/2009 9:48:40 PM PST by LibTeeth
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To: LibTeeth
"The over reaction by ‘isolation’ of innocent Japanese you cite is a dreadful black mark on our history and was never proven socially or militarily useful, and has been officially repudiated."

It was not an "over reaction", but a grim reality of war. Had there been a massacre at Ft. Hood by a Japanese American, would you have said that? The "official" repudiation you cite is the PC reaction by a government you don't support because it has gun control. You support the government when it suits your own ends, but not when it causes you to bristle? There is a logical fallacy.

So you blame Bush instead of the Islamofacists wielding the guns? Bizarre.

41 posted on 11/10/2009 7:00:33 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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