[nutmeg]

I don't think Obamacare is going to pass the Senate, the votes aren't there.

I hope you're right, but... how do you know "the votes aren't there"? I'm not so optimistic...

[jveritas]

Lieberman said many time with great assertion that he is going to filibuster the final vote on the current bill in the Senate and hence the socialists do not have 60 votes for cloture and I do not think they are going to use the nuclear option to go with 51 votes.