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To: Javeth
I have always felt that the true sign of our "INDEPENDENCE", objectivity, honesty and "CONSERVATISM" is if we can openly FREEP people in our own Party, such as Republicans, when THEY get out of line. There were little to no Freeps of "W" for his eight years in office, and there was PLENTY that he did against the Republic (open borders invasion for starters), that it struck me as odd what we could demonstrate against Clinton or Obama if they did those things, but then we were eerily silent if done by "W" or some other Republican. This is the essence of being "bought off".

I dont think for a moment that FR, the soul of FR, and Conservatives, should be "bought off."

136 posted on 11/02/2009 12:15:34 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I have always felt that the true sign of our "INDEPENDENCE", objectivity, honesty and "CONSERVATISM" is if we can openly FREEP people in our own Party, such as Republicans, when THEY get out of line. There were little to no Freeps of "W" for his eight years in office, and there was PLENTY that he did against the Republic (open borders invasion for starters), that it struck me as odd what we could demonstrate against Clinton or Obama if they did those things, but then we were eerily silent if done by "W" or some other Republican. This is the essence of being "bought off". I dont think for a moment that FR, the soul of FR, and Conservatives, should be "bought off."

W was the symptom of a huge problem in the GOP that should have been dealt with early on. But the illness in the GOP was there before him. For example how in the world did Bill Clinton continue to gut the military under a Two House GOP Majority? Gutted to the point that following 9/11 barely eight months later two aircraft carriers failed to get underway for a national emergency deployment due to maintenance issues that should have been done in the yards. Not even Carter let things get to that point. Actually the military was on the Post Nam mend when Reagan took office. Or at least Navy wise it was. A lot of changes happened and a lot of it was ending bad policies that Rummy enacted under Ford like the 31 day AWOL then instant civilian issue causing a high desertion rate in peacetime of all things. I know quite a few persons I went to school with who are today walking around with General Discharges from that era. It ended in about early 1978.

How could there be Contract with America one year and Bob Dole, Libby, Susie and Christie all on stage the next year at the 2006 convention selling us out? That paved the way for W. Whether Republicans want to hear this or not too bad because it's the truth. George W Bush helped pave the way for Barack Obama to come to power. Worse yet George W Bush and a GOP Majority left Obama with Executive Powers never intended for the office of POTUS as well as new agencies created likewise from the Bush era. Republicans who sat silent and said nothing against many of Bush's horrid policies for eight solid years must take their share of the blame in this as much as the DEMs.

I'm curious. Was there even one of the ten GOP House Managers left in office from the Clinton impeachment when W left office? A lot of good Conservative Republicans got took to the cleaners in that. Two of those congressmen were from Tennessee. Yet in here some think there was never a finer senator than Ted Stevens? The mans comments at the senate trial to Henry Hyde warranted a removal from office or at the very least booted out next election cycle. How ironic in what finally got him out of office.

148 posted on 11/02/2009 6:17:07 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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