True.
Anyone who has EVER been involved in the adoption records activism community would be able to tell you about literally thousands of people over the years who have discovered outright FRAUDULENT information on their Birth Certificates - and were not talking about names here. Were talking about DATES of BIRTH, and the PLACES of Birth, too.
Also true. I am aware of a case in my own family.
And, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANY of these cases against Obama, and is something I found out over 12 years ago when I worked on changing adoption records laws in various states. Its plain and simply NOT a lie, and frankly I take offense to your calling it such. Hell, I could give you exact NAMES of people I know who dont exist prior to an ILLEGAL BC after an ILLEGAL adoption was performed dont bother asking for the names though, I cant violate peoples privacy except to tell you that I know these people PERSONALLY and they have gone to court to get access to their records held by the state. And I know TWO people PERSONALLY who dont exist prior to their adoption. Stolen babies and forged BCs are nothing new. [And, no Im NOT saying Obama was the victim of an illegal adoption, either]
I absolutely believe you.
My question is, since all that is true, what good will seeing Obama's long form do?
He's a middle aged man. His mother and father died long before he ran for office. His grandparents are gone. The sister he was raised with is younger than he is. There is very little chance, as several doctors here have attested, that anyone would specifically remembers his birth, assuming they are even still alive.
So: since official forms are sometimes forged/faked/filed with incorrect information, how will it be better to see the "long form" than the "short form"?
In light of what you said, what proof would satisfy you?
Assuming you mention documents such as school or childhood medical records, how would those help, since all of those would be based on the lie in the "long form"?
School records, specifically the records from Occidental college, woul dbe a great help. When Barry entered Occi his legal, adoptive father was Lolo Soetoro. A year later, Barry’s mother divorced Lolo in an Hawaiian court, while Barry was still at Occi, and she entered as part of her pleading that Lolo was legally responsible for Barry still. So, records from Occi would help to determine if Barry used his Indonesian citizenship as Lolo’s adopted son when entering Occidental College and possibly obtaining funds for schooling as a foreign student. Also his travel records from 1981-82-84 would be helpful in finding whether he used foreign citizenship to obtain and use a foreign passport. The issue of abrogating his citizenship status has specific bearing on his natural born status or lack thereof.