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School Chief Sticks By 'Zero Tolerance' Ruling for Eagle Scout
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| October 16, 2009
| Joseph Abrams
Posted on 10/16/2009 10:56:47 AM PDT by broken_arrow1
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To: maine-iac7
Post-Columbine zero tolerance is like gun control. Yes, it makes perfect sense to a Libtard that a rule threatening suspension would have stopped the Columbine massacre. It didn’t do such a great job of stopping the carnage at Virginia Tech. Maybe if there was an Eagle Scout with a 2-inch blade in his pocket, the perpetrator Seung-Hui Cho, could have been stopped from killing 32 people and wounded many others.
Stupid is as stupid does!
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posted on
10/17/2009 5:43:15 AM PDT
by
broken_arrow1
(I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
To: Tenacious 1
I don’t think the monkey would have to be trained to perform as well.
To: ConservativeWarrior
Well put. Good points about the effort that should be undertaken when you have kids in public schools.
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posted on
10/19/2009 5:19:44 AM PDT
by
Tenacious 1
(Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
To: sthguard
RE#113:
Well said. Good Points. The irony of your being a teacher was not missed by this reader.
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posted on
10/19/2009 5:26:18 AM PDT
by
Tenacious 1
(Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
To: sthguard
However, youre ignoring the fact that careful attention to curriculum, attitudes, lesson plans, etc is a central part of homeschooling, whether a parent does the majority of the teaching or uses co-ops, tutors, community colleges, etc to supplement the childs education.
I was merely countering the previous poster's assertion that I view enrollment of my children in public school as a transfer of my responsibilites to the school. I was not speaking of home schooling parental responsibilities.
Ive got news for you: real conservatives are outnumbered a lot more than 3-1 in the public schools, and the ratio only gets worse as you move into high school...
Please re-read my post. My claim was that conservatives in general will be outnumbered at the ballot box 3-to-1, not in the public schools. And that includes your homeschooled kid. The difference is my kids will have experience countering the liberal mindset.
I'd like nothing more than to see the NEA dismantled, and primary education completely privatized. The simple fact is that the public schools system has grown too large to counter from the outside, it needs to be changed from the inside.
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posted on
10/19/2009 6:27:06 AM PDT
by
ConservativeWarrior
(In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
To: EDINVA
Presenting ones conservative case to a teacher, principal or superintendent does little more than get your kid or kids out of otherwise required programs in the school.
I see. The 3rd grade teacher had to re-teach the 2nd amendment to her entire class. The district utilized its automated phone system to notify every student household that viewing of the president's address would now be optional.
Yes, clearly I had wasted my time. Clearly I cannot make a difference, and should give up immediately, as you suggest.
You might want to see if your homeshooling network has anyone familiar with the concept of courage. You've got defeatism covered.
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posted on
10/19/2009 6:34:14 AM PDT
by
ConservativeWarrior
(In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
To: ConservativeWarrior
“My claim was that conservatives in general will be outnumbered at the ballot box 3-to-1, not in the public schools. And that includes your homeschooled kid. The difference is my kids will have experience countering the liberal mindset.”
I did read your post; try reading mine. And I find it rather insulting that you think the only way to “counter the liberal mindset” is to expose oneself or one’s child to it for twelve years. If I have anything to say about it, my (future) kids will get plenty of such experience without drinking in the poison that is public education.
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posted on
10/19/2009 8:27:12 AM PDT
by
sthguard
(Inter 0bama silent leges - in times of 0bama, the law falls silent.)
To: sthguard
If I have anything to say about it, my (future) kids will get plenty of such experience without drinking in the poison that is public education.
I was wondering how long it would take you to start reciting the popoular rhetoric. You argue like a lib.
Just more proof that you can't handle confrontation, and intend to raise your (future) children in a bubble.
Don't worry, my kids will there to tell them what to think.
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posted on
10/19/2009 8:34:41 AM PDT
by
ConservativeWarrior
(In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
To: ConservativeWarrior
Why don’t you go back to my original post? I said “if I had it to do over ... I would homeschool.” As it is, my kids went thru public school.
I was the most visible front and center person for one high school, one middle school and 6 elementary schools, representing thousands of families, before the school board and our local governing board. I served on the Superintendent’s Advisory Council and countless other boards/committees, etc. in one of the largest public school districts in the country. I don’t have enough time or interest to recount all the changes I effected in our schools, often at enormous personal sacrifice.
So big whoop dee doo that you got your 3rd grade program changed. I am really, really impressed.
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posted on
10/19/2009 1:52:09 PM PDT
by
EDINVA
To: broken_arrow1
A knife is a utensil, not a weapon.
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posted on
10/19/2009 2:18:33 PM PDT
by
668 - Neighbor of the Beast
( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...suspended an Eagle Scout for 20 days for keeping a 2-inch utility knife locked in his car is unwilling to speak to the teen's family or bend in his ruling. Lansingburgh Central School District Superintendent George J. Goodwin, 55, said in a written statement that his district "has an established policy of zero tolerance with respect to the possession of weapons of any kind on school property or in school buildings." But nowhere in the school district's rule book, which is published online, is there any mention of a "zero tolerance" policy...
The school needs a zero tolerance policy against goofy liars holding positions of authority.
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posted on
10/19/2009 2:41:50 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
10/19/2009 3:45:28 PM PDT
by
ConservativeMind
(There is no "gray area" on issues. I see things from both sides, but I choose the right side.)
To: maine-iac7
Yup, hateful Commie power trip alert.
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posted on
10/19/2009 3:57:52 PM PDT
by
GnuHere
To: ConservativeWarrior
I’m willing to take bullets but not to use my kid as a human shield. Homeschooling is not cowering in fear; it is stepping up to the plate and facing the question of “what is the best way to raise and educate my kid” face on.
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posted on
10/19/2009 4:00:56 PM PDT
by
JenB
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
>The young mans grandfather needs to take this jerk out behind the barn and teach him some moderation with a blackjack or an axe handle.
I'd pay to see YouTube of Grandpa teaching the petty dictator a few lessons in "That's not a weapon, this is a weapon."
We must get out of the mindset, endemic since WW2, that the magic formula for success in any endeavour is to sacrifice our rationality to the Gods of Total War.
This nightmare will not end until we have zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance.
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posted on
10/19/2009 4:29:31 PM PDT
by
Palin Republic
(Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
To: sthguard
I totally agree with your perspective, sthguard. The Dept. of Education is one of the biggest bureaucratic jokes in existence. No matter how much money is thrown at it and the “education” it supposedly fosters, the schools are just absolute concrete jungles that are falling apart. Nothing but little petri dishes full of malleable kids who have to endure the Left’s latest social theories and experiments. I hate to use the word, but so many of them are simply hellholes. If you like the looks of government schools, then you’ll LOVE Obama’s healthcare takeover. Instead of books, supplies, and resources being rationed as they are now, it will be medical care.
To: stinkerpot65
Zero Tolerance policies are just an excuse not to have to think. The people who create and enforce them are beyond the pale.
And, you know, if we keep on the track we’re on now it won’t belong before there are gov’t Zero Tolerance policies for fast food, fast cars and fast women.
To: dools007
Zero Tolerance policies are just an excuse not to have to think. The people who create and enforce them are beyond the pale.No, they are meant to create unthinking obedience to authority. It is all about control.
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posted on
10/19/2009 5:18:33 PM PDT
by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
To: broken_arrow1
Bozos like this are a walking advertisement for vouchers. If his pay was on the line he might learn to be a little flexible.
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posted on
10/19/2009 8:33:49 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
(I am Joe Wilson!)
To: luvEastTenn
Thanks for your support— if only certain public school apologists would see reason as easily!
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posted on
10/19/2009 9:15:22 PM PDT
by
sthguard
(Inter 0bama silent leges - in times of 0bama, the law falls silent.)
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