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To: Lundy_s Lane II
It amazes me that that anybody can confuse a citizen with a natural born citizen.

Amazes you?

Let's see. You birthers invented a definition of natural born citizen that is found nowhere in the U.S. Constitution or any established case law, a definition that Obama couldn't possibly meet and a definition that would render millions of Americans, born and raised here, to the status of second-class citizens.

And now you act incredulous that nobody is buying it? Not Obama's opponents. Not the previous administration. Not the Supreme Court, least of all Chief Justice Roberts who swore Obama in. Nobody is buying your cobbled-together ad hoc definition of natural born citizen that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens. Nobody.

Get over it.

278 posted on 10/14/2009 1:37:59 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Drew, a man born with British Citizenship is now president.

I think we are all admitting that as a fact now. This was not a well known fact last November.

We are making progress. It isn't over. There are dozens of documents he is refusing to show because they will disqualify him. Relax. This is going to be on his heals until he packs his basketball and leaves Washington. Americans know a Con Man when they see one, and they are tenacious.

284 posted on 10/14/2009 1:58:29 PM PDT by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: Drew68

Yes it amazes me.

The writers of the Constitution defined the requirements to be President. The writers used the term Natural born Citizen. The definition that was in use at the time of the Constitution for Natural Born Citizen is given by Vattel.

No one, who is trying to verify that the current _resident is eligible, needs to define or invent a definition for Natural Born citizen. The definition has been there since 1758.

Others are trying to say that the Constitutional requirement does not exist. Others are trying to redefine what Natural Born Citizen means. Not the “birthers”. We are conservative Constitutionalists. We believe that the framers meant what they wrote.

Yes you are right Obama can not and does not meet the requirement to be President. Thank you for recognizing that fact. He might not even be a US citizen.

Anyone who was born here, but their parents were not US citizens at the time of their birth are not Natural born citizens. They are not second-class citizens they just can not hold the office of President or Vice President. This was Chester Arthur’s problem. Vattel presents the reasons why the framers included the requirement for the PResident and Vice President to be Natural Born Citizens. Interesting reading.

What I can not believe is that there are posters on Free Republic that try to argue that there is no difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen. Or there are people on Free Republic that do not see the folly of letting an anchor child who leaves the country and comes back as an adult to run for President.

Chief Justice Roberts flubbed the oath and it was re administered in private. Cheney did not ask for objections. And everyone in the MSM and almost all of the conservative media are ignoring this.

And there are 10s of thousands of people that hold the same belief as I do. At some point there will hundreds of millions. And Chester Arthur obviously had the same view which proves the point.


287 posted on 10/14/2009 2:06:23 PM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Drew68
You birthers invented a definition of natural born citizen that is found nowhere in the U.S. Constitution or any established case law, a definition that Obama couldn't possibly meet and a definition that would render millions of Americans, born and raised here, to the status of second-class citizens

You Hussein Obama enablers just don't get it do you?

How in the world is a naturalized US citizen a SECOND-CLASS CITIZEN? Barbra Streisand! I myself am a naturalized (that means NOT natural born) citizen and I have ALL THE RIGHTS of my fellow US Citizens, except for one thing:

I AM NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

...and neither is Barry Soetoro.
298 posted on 10/14/2009 2:55:36 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: Drew68
You birthers invented a definition of natural born citizen that is found nowhere in the U.S. Constitution or any established case law,

Truly delusional statement. The First Congress used it, the author of the 14th Amendment used it, Justice Waite used it, and the Senate in their 2008 SR511 used it. Wake up and smell the definition.

445 posted on 10/15/2009 6:00:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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