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To: Non-Sequitur
So what do you think the founders meant by adding the requirement that the President and Vice President must be Natural Born Citizens?

That...the President had to be a natural-born citizen? Just a guess on my part.

So you do not think that the framers of the Constitution used the extant definition of Natural Born Citizen? But instead meant something different than the common usage; however, they did not define that term? That position makes no sense. IF the framers wanted Natural Born to mean something other than how "Natural Born Citizen" was understood at the time they would have used another term or defined what they meant.

To me it makes more sense that they understood "Natural Born Citizen to mean exactly how Vattel used that term. A Natural Born Citizen is one born in the country by parents that are citizens. And Vattel explains why that makes sense. IF only people today were as clear thinking as those in the past.

§ 212. Citizens and natives. The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

275 posted on 10/14/2009 1:13:11 PM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Lundy_s Lane II
So you do not think that the framers of the Constitution used the extant definition of Natural Born Citizen?

And what definition would that be?

To me it makes more sense that they understood "Natural Born Citizen to mean exactly how Vattel used that term. A Natural Born Citizen is one born in the country by parents that are citizens. And Vattel explains why that makes sense. IF only people today were as clear thinking as those in the past.

There is a problem with that. Any copy of Vattel's work available to the Founders did not define natural-born citizen in that way. Link

293 posted on 10/14/2009 2:36:28 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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