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To: wintertime

Don’t you think that’s a red herring? It’s not a question of broadminded, is it? It’s a question of law.
It’s just as unconstitutional to bring in ‘sharia indoctrination’ into the public schools that we pay for, as it is to mandate that I have to pay for (tax incentive or otherwise) you to choose a religious based school.

BTW, where exactly was the ACLU & NOW when they brought sharia/koran indoctrination into the school in the Houston school district? No where-that’s why they are not to be trusted. Ideology over principal & law is a losing bet every time.


49 posted on 10/13/2009 12:20:57 PM PDT by TooFarGone (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: TooFarGone
It’s a question of law.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ok, I will spell it out for you. Not for your benefit, but for others who may be reading this post.

It is IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A RELIGIOUSLY NEUTRAL SCHOOL!

A school with a godless worldview is no more religiously neutral than a God-centered school. Both must exclude and include curriculum that make it either godless or God-centered. Excluding or including certain materials and ideas is NOT neutral in content or consequences. Both have **profoundly*** non-neutral religious, cultural, and political consequences.

It is for this reason that it is ***impossible** for government to be involved in education in any way without stepping in a great big pile of First Amendment and freedom of conscience dog pooh!

It is for First Amendment and freedom of conscience reasons that we must begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.

As far as I know the Supreme Court has never addressed ( specifically ) whether a godless worldview in government education is religiously neutral or not. Their rulings are **deliberately** and extremely surgically narrow in their scope regarding government schools.

But...Please read my tag line. Ideas are very powerful. It is through ideas that large, seemly intractable institutions can lose their legitimacy seemingly over night. Martin Luther and the Catholic Church, our American Revolution, and Louis IVX are examples.

Education is never religiously, culturally, or political neutral. It is a powerful idea and this idea alone can ( and possibly will) lead to the complete de-legitimization of government education.

Now...The usual response from the atheist is that atheism is philosophically religiously neutral. No it is not. At this point, in discussing this issue with an atheist, the conversation devolves into:

A godless education is religiously neutral.

No it is not. Scrubbing God from the curriculum is not religiously neutral. It teaches children how to scrub God from their life. It teaches children to think godlessly. It teaches children to compartmentalize their faith. It is not religiously neutral for the government to do this to children, and it has non-neutral religious, cultural, and political consequences.

A godless education is religiously neutral.

No it is not. Scrubbing God from the curriculum is not religiously neutral. It teaches children how to scrub God from their life. It teaches children to think godlessly. It teaches children to compartmentalize their faith. It is not religiously neutral for the government to do this to children, and it has non-neutral religious, cultural, and political consequences.

A godless education is religiously neutral.

No it is not. Scrubbing God from the curriculum is not religiously neutral.It teaches children how to scrub God from their life. It teaches children to think godlessly. It teaches children to compartmentalize their faith. It is not religiously neutral for the government to do this to children, and it has non-neutral religious, cultural, and political consequences.

A godless education is religiously neutral.

No it is not. Scrubbing God from the curriculum is not religiously neutral.It teaches children how to scrub God from their life. It teaches children to think godlessly. It teaches children to compartmentalize their faith. It is not religiously neutral for the government to do this to children, and it has non-neutral religious, cultural, and political consequences.

And...So it goes.

54 posted on 10/13/2009 12:51:45 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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