Posted on 10/13/2009 7:45:31 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
This is one long ass thread, ain’t it?
Thanks for your input.
I believe mlo’s point in following this line of thinking was to establish a baseline with whomever it was he started the conversion.
If you can agree that something can be true and actual outside of and apart from your validation of it, then the conversation can continue. If you don’t believe that, then there is nothing to build upon.
At least that’s my understand of where mlo was going with this.
Good Question.
But I’m not registered there.
There are FR threads into the tens of thousands of replies. This one is only so-so, even by eligibility thread standards.
I gave the examples of a thing existing, without proof and that they are realities(Pluto and Africa).
Shouldn’t the next step then be proof of the thing? or does the conversation stop at a thing exists because it exists?
That’s true.
Not under your Freeper name, no.
Donofrio has his own questionable, hysterical moments. I know, I watched it all unfold, as you did.
But, McCain clearly had and still has unresolved questions, as to whether he qualifies as a natural-born citizen. The very existence of SR.511, plus various Senate bills proposing Constitutional Amendment, to define children born abroad of military parents as natural-born citizens, both support such an argument.
That two citizen parents are a requirement for natural-born citizenship is not in dispute for John McCain. But, he was not born of the soil.
That born of the soil is a requirement for natural-born citizenship is not in dispute for Barack Obama. But, he was not born of two citizen parents.
So, Donofrio has had his highly public, nutty moments himself. He's also aligned with Democrats. That does not invalidate all points raised by him, though.
The same observation can be made regarding practically all so-called attorneys who have attained any level of notoriety, in association with lawsuits pertaining to Presidential eligibility.
I’ve read his stuff. SOme of it is great, some of it is not so great, IMO. Overall, I think his approach will be soundly defeated if his case is heard in court. HOWEVER, I do not waste my time and energy denigrating him. He is trying the best way he knows to get rid of the boy marxist. I wish him well. Also, his latching on to the Miss Tickly method of forcing the HI bureaucrats to cough up info on their statements and actions is very useful.
You remember reading about it, don’t you?
BTW, this is not only about winning , it is about making as much public noise as possible.The opposition to Orly has fallen right into the place where that is sure to happen.
I love her strategy, it is grounded on priciples of Satyagraha.
Watch what happens next!
LOL! Yes professor what ever you say that makes you happy. How old are you today? LoL!
LOL. The professor is actually a broken record.
As far as I know, the stated objective of the whole “Miss Tickley” thing is to lay the entire birth certificate matter to rest, by demonstrating it genuine. Donofrio thinks it’s a distraction from the real issue here, which is a foreign father.
It’s also yet another blog, with daily, breathless announcements of routine, daily interactions. Ooooh, “Miss Tickley” is down to the county courthouse again today, and she’s going to reveal yet another heretofore unremarkable aspect of Hawaiian law ... tomorrow. So stay tuned. Exciting, isn’t it.
Milking those hits for AdSense dollars, is what they’re doing.
Miss Tickly has been at this a long time. ANd it is Donofrio, not Tickly, who thinks the records will show Obama to be an NBC.
Well, no. The "Miss Tickly" individual, "TerriK" or under whatever online alias, is in the employ of Donofrio.
And, Donofrio believes birth documentation will ultimately prove Obama to have been born in Hawaii. But, he certainly does not believe that to mean Obama is a natural-born citizen.
understand it. I just don’t agree with it, nor believe some bureaucrat with an MD, (who reportedly took mulitple trys to get her license) is qualified to state it authoritatively. She didn’t say what the requirement that could be verified by the “birth record”, other than birth in Hawaii, alone that would prove someone was an NBC. At minimum it would take records or knowledge of the parents’ citizenship at the time of the birth and that is not even on the long form from 1961 in Hawaii. Birthplace is though, that would give a clue, but would require further documentation, such as naturalization papers from before the birth. If the COLB is correct in every respect, which I highly doubt, his father was still not a US citizen, ever, but that would need to be checked via Visa records, or just be stipulated by all parties that BHO Sr, the presumed father, was not a citizen or even permanent legal resident, at the time of BHO II’s birth, or ever.
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