[Captain Kirk]

You just miss watching Americans jumping from 80 stories to their death.

No, but apparently you weren't watching. Who killed those Americans? It was not Iraqi Arabs or Pashtuns. It was Sunni Arabs from those countries in the Middle East which had the closest ties to the U.S. including Saudi Arabia and Egypt. If there was ever an indictment of a Wilsonian foreign policy, it was what happened on 9-11.

[SoCalPol]

So you probably didn’t think we shouuld have fought against Hitler because he wasn’t the one who bombed Pearl Harbor.

[Stultis]

It was Sunni Arabs from those countries in the Middle East which had the closest ties to the U.S. including Saudi Arabia and Egypt. If there was ever an indictment of a Wilsonian foreign policy, it was what happened on 9-11.

Um, wait a minute... How is that an indictment of "a [supposed] Wilsonian foreign policy"?

You yourself point out our attackers were from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But those are exactly the places were we did NOT follow the advice of the e-vile and dastardly "neocons," and determinedly promote democracy; but instead followed the dictates of the contrasting foreign policy "realism" which you advocate, and tolerated or supported authoritarian regimes.

[happygrl]

Who killed those Americans? It was not Iraqi Arabs or Pashtuns. It was Sunni Arabs from those countries in the Middle East which had the closest ties to the U.S. including Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

As was stated repeatedly after those events, WE BOMBED THE WRONG COUNTRY.