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1 posted on 10/11/2009 10:57:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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I’m guessing the excuse is going to be: “the system failed us.”


2 posted on 10/11/2009 11:00:42 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians BS.)
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To: Steelfish
Could happen to anybody.

At least we've got the borders secured.

4 posted on 10/11/2009 11:15:23 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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Eight years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and despite repeated mandates from Congress, the United States still has no reliable system for verifying that foreign visitors have left the country.

Can the folks at the top be really that stupid?

I mean, it's like "duh!"--track what visas were issued and to whom, and then record entries and exits when the individual's passport is inspected at point of entry or point of exit (which would correspond to a point of entry in the destination country).

Tracking foreign visitors once they are in the United States is a different story.

5 posted on 10/11/2009 11:16:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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Eight years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and despite repeated mandates from Congress, the United States still has no reliable system for verifying that foreign visitors have left the country.

When we make no real effort to control our borders and anyone who wishes can enter the US without legal approval, what difference does this make?
7 posted on 10/11/2009 11:24:34 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Not sure if this article was posted here but I thought it relevant on the thread.
To complicate matters even further. U.S. Intelligence Pulls Plug On Cross-Agency E-Mail System
8 posted on 10/11/2009 11:30:02 PM PDT by allmost
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Yeah, chip everyone so this doesn’t happen. Oh wait..


9 posted on 10/11/2009 11:49:37 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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The only group that they have relatively good monitoring system is the international students who go to legitimate schools, through SEVIS. Students have to take certain number of credits to stay legally in the US. Even this, the problem will only arise when the students want to officially depart from, or re-enter the US. Apart from this system, I don't know how they trace 'visitors' -- especially those who do not want to take official routes.
12 posted on 10/12/2009 12:16:10 AM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: Steelfish
The current system is broke.
It cannot be fixed.
Until that is understood and it is completely redone...FORGET IT.

I like the 'bounty' idea mentioned above. Perhaps with some slight tuning it might be actionable.
But first a system of accountability MUST be put into place.
People enter the USA and then disappear. Even if they get arrested...they disappear again. This must be stopped.
If this is not done...NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Aliens/Immigrants must be required to report to local agencies. They MUST be held accountable for doing this with penalties up to and including jail time and deportation.
Other countries do this. WHY NOT THE USA?
13 posted on 10/12/2009 12:18:52 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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Visa, schmisa. Why do we allow anyone to enter this country with any one of these names on a visa, drivers license, library card, dog tag, credit card, tattoo, underwear label, etc:

Hosam Maher Husein Smadi

I can not believe we have a need for people with similar names in this country.

14 posted on 10/12/2009 12:30:46 AM PDT by tdscpa
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He77, there's a foreign national that overstayed his student visa at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. DC.

Why worry bout a few zillion central Americans?

15 posted on 10/12/2009 1:26:20 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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Is this like not closing out your flight plan?


16 posted on 10/12/2009 1:39:01 AM PDT by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator (who served in Vietnam) said so.)
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obama’s fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS


17 posted on 10/12/2009 3:24:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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Yea... It’d be nearly impossible to track people whose source of wealth is based offshore. That would require a device that could search for transactions and associate them with locations. How ever could such a task be accomplished

maybe they can borrow that fancy machine device that tracked all that money made by the evil rich and stashed in those Swiss bank accounts


21 posted on 10/12/2009 4:20:09 AM PDT by sten
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This is not news. It has been a problem for years. The NYSlimes just found out?
25 posted on 10/12/2009 5:09:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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ping


26 posted on 10/12/2009 9:03:48 AM PDT by gubamyster
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No problem. While the White HOuse is doing the census.......


31 posted on 10/12/2009 12:59:28 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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