The little b!tche$ in Congress will pay dearly come next election. I predict historic losses for the Dems if this is true....
Some Dare Call It Democracy
If Republicans want to earn some points with the voters, they need to really really old school filibuster this crap.
The pubbies ought to be beating the drums LOUDLY on this one. It’s the same type of ploy used to pass the original stimulus bill, IIRC. It’s so absolutely abhorent to so many Americans, that I don’t understand why it is even acceptable as a legislative ploy in the Congress. It’s almost like the whole legislative branch is populated by criminals...oh...wait, nevermind.
It’s time to take back the country. Only when the PEOPLE make the change will the change be made. It’s readily apparent that the only thing these arrogant gasbags pursue is the next election and lining their own pockets.
ping?
Rush announced this on Monday. And a number of democrats will vote FOR cloture and then vote AGAINST the final bill, hoping to fool constituents. The only ones fooled these days will be the usual gang of slobbering idiots, all on welfare and living in big cities.
The current GOP are out of touch with the party. Time to throw nearly all of them out.
Hey bang the drums on this. In California we have ended up with some horrific legislation this way ——every kook’s agenda ends up gutting some other bill. You think you know where the pea is but the game is rigged.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT
kill any bill it’s on.
To paraphrase Maxine Waters - “just another brick in the wall”.
Here is an email I just sent to cnsnews.com:
email to: redacted@cnsnews.com
I want to bring to your attention several issues that your latest article, "Reid ‘Likely’ to Make Entire Health Bill an Amendment to Unrelated Tax Bill That House Passed in March."
You have been sounding the alarm on this. To some extent that is good. But you completely misunderstand what is going on. This isn't about "sneaking something unpopular past the Republicans and the American people." And your articles should explain the real reasons for this procedure, and the real damage to our Constitutional republic from this exercise.
This is even worse than your articles make it sound. This is about circumventing the Constitution.
The reasons for these convoluted procedures goes to Article 1, Section 7 of the United States Constitution. It says:Simply put, this says that the Senate is constitutionally barred from creating new taxes. They can amend proposals from the House, but they can't originate an entirely new bill to tax the People.
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
The reason for this is that the founders understood the dangers of "taxation without representation." The House of Representatives is where We the People are represented in the Congress. The Senate is where the states are represented. The fact that Senators are now elected rather than appointed doesn't really change that. Representation in the Senate is still allocated by state, not by population. The people are certainly not equally represented in the Senate.
Senators believe that if they use this "amendment by substitution" to put this new health care scheme into a revenue measure that the House has already passed, they have complied with the letter of Article 1 Section 7. That is actually questionable. There is no question that they have broken the spirit of that part of the Constitution by doing this.
This procedure was used last year to pass the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act. Prior to that, I'm not sure. I thought at the time that the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act was an unprecedented usurpation of the taxing powers by the Senate. Others told me that this was not unprecedented, but nobody could give an example of when this had been done before.
But this year's actions are much more blatant than last year. Last year, when that act came to the Senate, for the most part, the language they were voting on had been proposed first in the house. The house had rejected it, but some said that technically, that bill still "originated" in the house.
This year, with Health care, there is no such pretense. The Baucus health care bill, with its array of entirely new taxes, is entirely a Senate creation. It should be obvious to everyone that it directly violates the Constitution, specifically Article 1 Section 7. The Senators should not even be debating these things until the House passes them.
Harry Reid and the Democrats would have you believe that they are following the Constitution by doing this. They just took up H.R.1586, just a small tax matter with a surtax for certain "rich people," and made one change to that bill, an amendment. That's perfectly within Article 1 Section 7. Don't buy it. This is blatantly unconstitutional act by the Senate. They are usurping powers reserved to the House of Representatives.
It will be interesting to see if Pelosi and the House go along with this. There will be incredible pressure on the House to just bring this monstrosity to the floor for a vote to concur with the Senate amendment. If Pelosi does this, she cedes most of her own power. She becomes Speaker of the House that Doesn't Matter Anymore. She gives up the House's exclusive authority to propose revenue bills.
Can you please start drawing attention to the real problem here.
I thought I would share this here as well.
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