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To: GodGunsGuts
Best I can do in a short space is dribs and drabs of a very long story. Ancient literature generally describes three kinds of things which we do not have any experience with in historical times or at least since Alexander, i.e.

Our solar system generally looks like a composite system, i.e. four or five of the planets have spin axes set off around 24 - 27 degrees from the plane of the system while the others have axes normal to the plane as you'd expect if the system were primordial. That's what you'd expect if an older system of some sort had been captured by a younger one.

Genesis mentions God creating two "great lights" to govern day and night. Most assume that means the sun and moon; it all but certainly means Jupiter and Saturn. Plato consistently refers to antediluvians as children or nurselings of Kronos (Saturn) and Ovid and Hesiod both claim that there had been a golden age when Saturn/Kronos had been "king of heaven" followed by the flood and then a silver age when Jupiter/Zeus was "king of heaven", followed by the Trojan war and the present ages. In the same language, the sun is the "king of heaven" now.

If you were to go to Baltimore or some such place and find a group of primitive people and offer them $100 apiece to devise an astral religion straight off the tops of their heads from scratch, they'd invariably end up worshiping the sun and the moon. The two chieftain gods of every one of those ancient astral religions nonetheless were Jupiter and Saturn.

What the ancients believed was that Saturn had once been a small star with its own solar system which we were part of.

15 posted on 10/08/2009 10:45:42 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
Fascinating stuff. Been to the Thunderbolts site. Most of this is over my head.

Back in the day I read Jaynes' "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" and Sagans' "The Dragons of Eden". Waay over my head. Interesting nevertheless.

18 posted on 10/08/2009 10:59:58 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: wendy1946

Thanks Wendy, I’ll be sure to give it (and the link just above) some serious thought this evening. All the best—GGG


19 posted on 10/08/2009 11:56:05 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: wendy1946
So God did not, then, create the solar system as we know it, rather it evolved through natural processes?
21 posted on 10/08/2009 1:32:49 PM PDT by dmz
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To: wendy1946

Hi, Ted. Where’s Splifford these days?


26 posted on 10/20/2009 6:33:50 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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