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To: STARWISE
"Would the Founder’s and the Constitution assert that my Mother would be eligible, and completely without any taint of foreign allegiance or loyalty to another country, if she eventually successfully ran for and became VP of the US when she was 35?"

The Constitution doesn't say "and completely without any taint of foreign allegiance or loyalty to another country". It only requires that she be a "natural born citizen". And by US law and long-standing principles of both English and US Common Law, since she was born here, she qualifies.

1,595 posted on 10/12/2009 6:51:24 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Thanks for eventually responding. I see you
surgically examine my words ... written as a
Constitutional Law neophyte ... in an attempt
to describe the backdrop for their logical
approach (borne of their tumultuous, bloody
and costly battles for independence from the
Crown) and, as much as possible to strive to
eliminate rogue future leaders who had foreign
familial origins and questionable allegiances.

Maternity and paternity of the candidate are at
the minimum a logical fundamental basis from
which to begin the vetting process and gauge
national loyalty.

You seem determined to discount the known
chapters of our history and the basis for why
they even dealt with the issue (though the
exact word ‘allegiance’ is not written in the
clause.)

I don’t, and believe it didn’t have to be ..
they and all of the time knew and lived the
reasons for their concerns for future leaders
when they specified the citizenship requirements.

Otherwise, why even deal with the issue at all
by including it ?

What’s your premise for why they did ?

Your hypothesis discounts their history, common
sense, and their logical intent and desires for
future leaders of this infant nation for very
sound reasons.

Mine does not.

And I don’t believe those sound reasons have
somehow evaporated over the centuries.

We disagree about the hypothetical situation
with my Mother.

If Fidel Castro had fathered a son or daughter
from a tryst with an American citizen in New York
while he was here for a UN conference, do you
believe that child .. born here and raised here
with the American mother, with his father’s name
on the birth certificate, paternity acknowledged
... could one day legally run for and become
president or vice president of the US?

Are you an attorney ?

Please respond to all my queries. Thank you.


1,597 posted on 10/12/2009 8:59:56 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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