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Barry may have been adopted in Indonesia de facto or de jure. But this has no effect on Barry's legal paternity in the HI vital records and in US law and no effect on Barry's NBC eligibility.

It seems clear to me that a child can have two legal fathers in two different countries just as they can have two legal citizenships.

Stanley Ann may have made a purely tangential reference to Barry in her Soetoro divorce just to dispose of any child support issue. She is also suspected of using the “truth” opportunistically as the Soetoro may have done when declaring Obama to be his son and an Indonesian citizen to get him into school (and Muslin).

We have no forensic legal evidence of any adoption in Indonesia or HI and lack of an index for an adoption for Barry in HI. We have no passport evidence for Barry for the US, Kenya or Indonesia and claims that US citizens couldn't travel to Pakistan in 1981 have been definitively refuted by contemporary travel packages in the NY Times (from memory).

We just don't know and can only guess how Barry got to Pakistan and whether he could travel there on a non-US passport obtained without renouncing his US citizen or NBC status (if he ever had citizen or NBC status).

At least the extremely important confirmation of an HI record of an index for the Stanley-Obama Sr marriage was made last week.

It seems clear to me that a child can have two legal fathers in two different countries just as they can have two legal citizenships.

??? Only one man can father a child, perhaps you meant one father and one step-father???

Item 7 on page two of the divorce eliminates child support for the only minor child.

You do not get a divorce unless you were married. You also cannot confer citizenship in Indonesia thru the mother, only thru the step-father, who is an Indonesian citizen, and to do so, adoption is required.

We have no forensic legal evidence of any adoption in Indonesia or HI and lack of an index for an adoption for Barry in HI. We have no passport evidence for Barry for the US, Kenya or Indonesia and claims that US citizens couldn’t travel to Pakistan in 1981 have been definitively refuted by contemporary travel packages in the NY Times (from memory).

Agreed, what we have is a preponderance of circumstantial evidence. Like the divorce decree from Soetoro. IF the documents are ever unsealed, we will learn more.

IMO the biggest news was that his Hawaii info had been modified, See MissTickly, and Leo Donofrio for that information.