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To: BP2
The “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth” Program was terminated in 1972

Thank you - and the prior poster(s) who posted that info, which I was just working through. I had bad info, and I was WRONG on that, and freely admit it.

That being said, I do not believe you can get a COLB based on a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth" (for the very reasons it was terminated - the program did not demand sufficient proof of the requirements). I am looking for a link on that, and will provide it (or correct my statement) when I find it.

As for the "Late Certificate" and "Non-attended BC" theories - they could work only if you are willing to believe that both newspapers falsely reported that their announcements were based on Health Bureau Statistics.
1,098 posted on 10/08/2009 12:10:07 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Sibre Fan
That being said, I do not believe you can get a COLB based on a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth" (for the very reasons it was terminated - the program did not demand sufficient proof of the requirements). I am looking for a link on that, and will provide it (or correct my statement) when I find it.

FYI, there's no way he could have a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth because his birth was registered within four days. The COHB was only given to people whose births were not registered before their first birthday.

1,100 posted on 10/08/2009 12:13:03 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: BP2

Additionally, based on the link you provided, you have to accept the newspaper conspiracy theory to believe it’s possible for him to have a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth under the program terminated in 1972 — because that program was to “register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii.”


1,103 posted on 10/08/2009 12:15:26 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html

Who is Eligible to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?

The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.

Certified copies of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may be requested following the procedures for certified copies of standard birth certificates (see Certified Copies). The eligibility requirements for issuance of a certified copy of a standard birth certificate apply to Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. And the same fees charged for standard birth certificates are charged for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. Copies of the set of testimony used to establish a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may also be requested, and an additional fee is charged for each copy of the set of testimony.

Any person to whom a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth has been issued may submit a request to amend an entry, including a legal change of name, on an existing Certificate. A request to amend a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth will, however, be considered to be and treated as an application with the Department of Health for registration of a late certificate of birth in current use, unless a standard birth certificate for that person already exists in the vital records of the Department of Health. Should there be a situation of dual registration, the requested amendment will be made to the standard birth certificate on file if the required documentary evidence in support of the amendment has been submitted and evaluated to be adequate. If there is no standard birth certificate on file, an applicant is required to submit documentary evidence of the birth facts necessary to support of the registration of the late certificate of birth. If approved, the late birth certificate will be registered in place of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which must then be surrendered to the Department of Health.

How to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth

Upon receiving a request to amend an entry on an existing Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, the Registration Unit of the Office of Health Status Monitoring will send:

  1. notification to the requestor that the amendment request is treated as an application for registration of a late certificate of birth, and
  2. instructions on procedures for and submission of required documentary evidence in support of registration of a late certificate of birth.

If the amendment request is subsequently withdrawn, all documents received in support of the amendment will be returned. If the requestor elects to proceed with the application for registration of a late certificate of birth, the documentary evidence submitted in support of registration will be reviewed and evaluated for adequacy. If the application is approved, a late birth certificate will be issued and the original Certificate of Hawaiian Birth issued to the applicant must be surrendered to, for cancellation by, the Department of Health. No filing fee is charged for the late birth certificate.


Name

Location of Birth

Birth Cert #

Date/Time Born

Barack Hussein Obama II

Kapiolani Medical Center

151-61-10641

Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm

Susan Elizabeth Nordyke

Kapiolani Medical Center

151-61-10637

Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm

Gretchen Carter Nordyke

Kapiolani Medical Center

151-61-10638

Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm


Nordyke birth certificates
1,111 posted on 10/08/2009 12:25:24 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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