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Richard Dawkins's Jewish Problem
beliefnet ^ | September 29, 2009 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 09/30/2009 11:46:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: Agamemnon

“How conveniently the phony “conservative” evo-crud puking atheists would like true conservatives to forget what their philosophical roots REALLY are!”

they are RINOs who will rush to Obama the second the GOP nominates someone who dares to questions Darwin. See Little Green Footballs.


181 posted on 10/04/2009 6:53:45 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: YHAOS; Buck W.; tpanther
BW: ”All are Christian. Do you deny that?”

YHAOS: It is not for me to either affirm or deny. That is what tpanther and I have been trying to explain to you. But, you will have none of it.

You and everybody else on this forum.

Apparently, it allows you insufficient room to perpetrate your quarrels and advance your little schisms.

It does seem that that is what it's all about.

Being called a Christian means being a follower of Christ. The disciples were first called *Christians* at Antioch, long before there were any denominations to be a member of.

Imagine the audacity of someone thinking that determining who is and is not a Christian should be left up to Christ.

182 posted on 10/04/2009 7:03:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ari-freedom

“they are RINOs who will rush to Obama the second the GOP nominates someone who dares to questions Darwin.”

I am a Christian. I am a conservative. I believe that evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible. I would vote for Sarah Palin in a heartbeat.

Your premise is thereby rendered false.


183 posted on 10/04/2009 7:06:47 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom

Answer the question: Are Catholics Christian?


184 posted on 10/04/2009 7:07:56 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Do you deny that the practice of Catholicism is devoid of the judgment of Christ as to its Christianity?

You don’t get to play Master Inquisitor hiding behind questions to hurl accusations. You haven’t the authority.

I spoke to your question. Not unexpectedly, you didn’t like the answer. I’m not here to please you. But to even cry “cop out” you found it necessary to cherry pick what portion of my response to which you reacted. You had to ignore that I also responded, “If someone claims Christianity, I accept their declaration.” You may wish to ask questions. You don’t get to script the answers. And, you don’t get to claim exclusivity on asking questions.

The question was, “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

Either we treat with each other as equals, or else the whole process comes to a screeching halt. Choose.

185 posted on 10/04/2009 7:11:59 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

“You don’t get to play Master Inquisitor hiding behind questions to hurl accusations. You haven’t the authority.”

This is pretty tame stuff. If you can’t handle the give and take on a discussion board, perhaps you should restrict your computer use to playing solitaire and browsing for bargains at the home shopping club.

But I’ll give you another chance to answer the question. Quickly, please.


186 posted on 10/04/2009 7:16:22 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom; tpanther
Sorry, metmom I posted #185 before I saw your post to me. See the post if you're of a mind. You too, tpanther.
187 posted on 10/04/2009 7:18:22 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: ari-freedom
Atheists love islamofascists because they also believe Jews descended from apes and pigs.

Islamofacists deny atheism and human evolution.

188 posted on 10/04/2009 7:20:50 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: YHAOS

“You had to ignore that I also responded, “If someone claims Christianity, I accept their declaration.”

That’s not the point. I’m not expecting you or anyone else to conduct a poll of the world’s Catholics. I am expecting an acknowledgement that Catholics, unnamed and unpolled, are Christian.


189 posted on 10/04/2009 7:21:17 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
"This is pretty tame stuff. If you can’t handle the give and take on a discussion board"

You are the one who refuses to handle the give and take. With you it's all take - no give. You can't handle not getting to play Master Inquisitor. You want to see the hand without tossing in the ante. I don't know what the term is for that behavior, but it has to be something worse than four-flusher.

Choose.

The question was: "“It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

190 posted on 10/04/2009 7:28:38 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Buck W.

Your premise is thereby rendered false.

no, because I was talking about atheists who must have their evolution.


191 posted on 10/04/2009 7:29:07 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: ari-freedom

Must one be an athiest to believe in TToE?


192 posted on 10/04/2009 7:30:01 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: YHAOS

“You are the one who refuses to handle the give and take. “

You accused me of being a Master Inquisitor, hence the difficulty is yours. I believe that Catholics are Christians. Can you join me in that proclamation?


193 posted on 10/04/2009 7:31:44 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
"That’s not the point."

It's my point. You don't get to script my answers. Deal with it or get out.

Choose.

The question was: "“It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

194 posted on 10/04/2009 7:31:45 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

“It’s my point. You don’t get to script my answers. Deal with it or get out.”

It was your point in response to my premise.

Deal with it or get out? Are you kiddin’ me? Surely you’re passing through a second childhood—let me know when your inner grownup takes control again.


195 posted on 10/04/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

no, but an atheist must have TToE


196 posted on 10/04/2009 7:34:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: Buck W.
" I believe that Catholics are Christians."

You have my answer. If you can't deal with it, run home to mommy and cry.

Choose.

The question was: “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

197 posted on 10/04/2009 7:38:04 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: ari-freedom

I am pleasantly surprised by your “no” answer, but I disagree with the second part of your response. Athiests could just as easily believe in the seeding of life on earth from extra-terrestrial sources, without the need for evolution.


198 posted on 10/04/2009 7:38:12 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: YHAOS

You’ve posted the following two statements:

“If someone claims Christianity, I accept their declaration.”,

and

“It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian.”

While not entirely antipodal, they do pose a modicum of conflict, nicht wahr? Why would you blithely accept the professed Christianity of an individual, if you don’t believe that the origin of that person’s Christianity is judged such by Christ?


199 posted on 10/04/2009 7:43:45 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
"Surely you’re passing through a second childhood"

I'm fine. You're the one who can't abide dealing with an antagonist as an equal.

Choose.

The question was: “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

200 posted on 10/04/2009 7:43:55 PM PDT by YHAOS
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