First, substantiated by who? The two major “experts” who claimed that the COLB was forged both turned out to be lying about their credentials, and were never actually document experts. And after they were exposed as fakes, they promptly disappeared offline and never explained themselves.
Sandra Ramsey Lines is a Forensic Document specialist, no one has dis-credited her. My documentation has been used.
Second, the evidence showing that Obama was born in Hawaii (including the news announcements and the Secretary of State saying “Obama was born in Hawaii”) is already more evidence than I ever got that Bush was born in Connecticut, or that Palin was born in Idaho.
Since when are newspaper announcements - legal documents.
Even Chris [My leg is tingling] Matthews had to admitt that is a falsehood and total BS.
Third, on the flip-side, there’s no substantive evidence showing he was born anywhere other than Hawaii. Jerome Corsi has claimed that he was an affidavit from Obama’s grandmother. That is false. It’s been claimed that two of Obama’s siblings said he was born in Kenya. But no one has ever been able to say where or when they said this. And so on.
Even the Obama STORY about Dr Rodney West, was discredited in a matter of hours. I for one worked on debunking that lie. His ‘blood-relative’ grandmother stated she was there when he was born. The Ambassador to Kenya, even admitted that where he was born is going to be a monument.
Here is the klincher.
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/obama-is-a-foreign-national-and-kenya-knows-it/
Updated working link; http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT
Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obama’s win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.
Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request! *****[note - “having a Kenyan ruling the USA”!]
The Kenyan Parliment itself has stated so.
Sandra Lines didn't claim the COLB was a forgery, though.
My documentation has been used.
Used by who? Orly? Also, everyone who cites your paper online offers only "genealogist" as your expertise. Now I rather enjoy genealogy, but what in your genealogy past gives you experience in digital image examination?
Since when are newspaper announcements - legal documents.
Who asked for legal documents? If that's the standard, I've never seen ANY evidence that Bush or Biden or Palin or Gore or Clinton were born in the U.S., much less in the states they claim. The fact that I've seen Obama's COLB automatically means I've seen more birthplace-evidencing legal documentation for him than any other President prior to or during his Presidency.
His ‘blood-relative’ grandmother stated she was there when he was born.
Sure...if you ignore the multiple times she stated that he was born in Hawaii. Also, fun fact: as early as June 2008, it was claimed that Obama's grandmother had said he was born in Kenya. But nobody ever managed to produce any evidence of that either.
The Ambassador to Kenya, even admitted that where he was born is going to be a monument.
It's a year later; has there been a monument? And if we're to assume that the Ambassador knows the real truth...why would HE know the real truth? One can at least understand why a grandmother might be a trusted source, but why would an Ambassador be a reliable source to know where a U.S. Presidential candidate was born?
Here is the klincher.
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/obama-is-a-foreign-national-and-kenya-knows-it/
Updated working link; http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf
So you think Obama managed to keep a Kenyan birth a total secret from everybody in the U.S. for 47 years, until some folks started tossing around unsupported rumors in spring 2008...and yet the Kenyan government 'knows' he was born in Kenya? That his true Kenyan birth was simultaneously an amazingly well-kept secret where he lived for five decades, and yet was public knowledge halfway around the world where he had only visited three times? And that interpretation doesn't strike you as a bit silly?