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To: DirtyHarryY2K; Manic_Episode; reasonisfaith
It is time for conservatives to distance themselves from the obviously unstable Dr.Orly Taitz. She has recently discredited herself with her near hysterical performance on MSNBC and this screed of hers is simply disreputable. She is a liability with which the conservative movement can no longer afford to be associated.

As for the birther movement itself, the issue of the legitimacy of Barack Obama's birth remains theoretically open. It is theoretically possible that his mother or grandmother filed an application falsely alleging a private birth at home in Honolulu which resulted in a Birth Certificate which purported a birth in Hawaii. This document in turn spawned a Certification of Live Birth and two newspaper announcements. All succeeding documents were automatically generated and all succeeding documents were as fraudulent as the initial application. All subsequent pronouncements by the officials of the state of Hawaii properly reflected that proper procedures were followed and correctly recited that the documents show a birth in Honolulu, Hawaii. Hence, garbage in, garbage out and all the garbage was turned out on automatic pilot. That, at any rate, it is the remaining scenario to show the Barack Obama is not a naturall born citizen of the United States.

On August 10 I posted as follows. Events have sadly borne out my assessment of Dr. Orly Taitz. I post it here for the benefit of those who might wish to reassess their reaction to that post in light of Dr. Tietz subsequent antics:

This scenario is theoretically possible but not likely. Far more likely is a simple explanation that Barack Obama received an ordinary birth certificate as is normally issued upon live birth in a Honolulu hospital. But that is only a likelihood. Therefore, I believe that we should maintain an open mind and a steadfast insistence that Obama produce the underlying documents which would settle the provenance of the Certificate of Live Birth.

Meanwhile, as a matter of our own survival is is time to say au revoir to Doctor Dr.Orly Taitz.


20 posted on 09/28/2009 10:38:51 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Leo and Terri K are making progress and Gary Kreep still has the case with Judge Carter unless Orly screws that up.


24 posted on 09/28/2009 10:45:47 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: nathanbedford

Sure, MSNBC and the RINOS and FR trolls have sopken!

Meanwhile, Lawyers are lining up in droves to defend the US Constitution.../s

BORN IN THE USA?
49 of 50 states never saw certification of eligibility?
Researcher: Democrats dodge Constitution, even in primaries

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=111286


29 posted on 09/28/2009 10:57:16 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: nathanbedford

We can’t fire her. We didn’t hire her. All I can do is wish her success at exposing the boy marxist.


34 posted on 09/28/2009 11:06:14 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: nathanbedford
Sorry NB, I always stick up for the underdog.

Orly is clearly an outclassed, outmatched amateur in way over her head, fighting against all odds in a near hopeless situation.

I completely admire her for that and support her 100%.

The substantial female hasn't yodeled yet.

The rest of all lawyers are cowards compared to Orly. She is the only one crazy enough to do what needs to be done, and she just might accomplish something significant.

96 posted on 09/28/2009 12:27:51 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: nathanbedford
This scenario is theoretically possible but not likely. Far more likely is a simple explanation that Barack Obama received an ordinary birth certificate as is normally issued upon live birth in a Honolulu hospital. But that is only a likelihood. Therefore, I believe that we should maintain an open mind and a steadfast insistence that Obama produce the underlying documents which would settle the provenance of the Certificate of Live Birth.

That has been a reasonable position all along.

However, we havenow been through multiple forged Kenyan birth certs, the fact that "Obama's Grandma says he was born in Kenya" was actually a distortion from a spliced-up interview, attempts to nitpick the birth cert # that actually only confirms its a valid one, simliar critiques of newspaper announcements that have actually confirmed the validity of them. So we need to get back to a simple "the official story is considered valid based on evidence thus far until a shred of *real* evidence to the contrary crops up." None has.

It would be great to see the original birth certificate, but we need to get off the narrative that lack of it indicates a deep dark secret or a foreign birth. A lot of people have invested a lot of energy into proving or showing Obama wasn't born in Honolulu, yet every additional piece of data has ended up confirming the 'official story' that he was indeed born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961. It remains just a likelihood, but is more of a '99.99%' likelihood than a 50/50 one.

120 posted on 09/28/2009 1:25:33 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: nathanbedford
"It is time for conservatives to distance themselves from the obviously unstable Dr.Orly Taitz. She has recently discredited herself with her near hysterical performance on MSNBC and this screed of hers is simply disreputable. She is a liability with which the conservative movement can no longer afford to be associated."

Let's make something a little more clear here, please. Orly Taitz is not associated with the conservative movement. Orly Taitz is representative of, and associated with, the birther movement. All conservatives are not birthers and all birthers are not conservatives. Thank you.

146 posted on 09/28/2009 2:28:36 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Southern by choice ... American by the grace of God)
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