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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Sorry, but Beck is making the common mistake of confusing his own self interest with the county’s interest.

Had McCain won:

1. There would have been less of a stimulus budget buster.

2. There would be no attempt at government takeover of health insurance nor health care.

3. There would have been truther czar for Beck to go after.

4. There would be no doubt that the US would stay the course in Afghanistan.

5. There would have been no attempt at a cap and trade tax increase during a recession.

6. The public would not have been as concerned with the ACORN tapes as ACORN would have been further from influence. Still I think this one because of the child sex slavery would have caught the eye of the American public.

7. Though he voted against them, McCain would be arguing not to raise taxes during a recession by letting the Bush tax rate cuts expire.

8. The latest Supreme Court Justice would not be Sotomayor though I admit McCain might have disappointed us still.

9. The NEA would not be pressuring artist to do project supportive of the administration.

10. Eastern Europe would still be getting its missle defense.

11. Our foreign policywould be more than an apology.

BTW, the tea party protester etc would all still exist. The potential of the American public has always been there. The American public arises when needed. Had McCain been elected, the potential would have still been there. Beck might not have been as famous. You might not have met your latest boy/girl friend at a tea party protest, but that is individual interest not interst of the US.


35 posted on 09/26/2009 3:42:31 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

great post


39 posted on 09/26/2009 3:47:41 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: JLS
The public would not have been as concerned with the ACORN tapes as ACORN would have been further from influence. Still I think this one because of the child sex slavery would have caught the eye of the American public.

First of all, regarding Afghanistan during the campaign McCain OPPOSED sending in more troops. In this respect, he was more of a peacenik than Obama. What makes you think that McCain would now flip flop on that issue?

Second, there would have been no ACORN tapes if McCain was in office. He would (without controvery) have continued the Bush policy of giving tax money to that group. Would Republicans object or fund investigations (even private ones)? Probably not the Republicans who never cared about ACORN when Bush was handing them our money!

40 posted on 09/26/2009 3:48:03 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: JLS

Excellent points, JLS. I am no great McCain fan. I voted for Fred Thompson in the primary.


47 posted on 09/26/2009 3:54:51 PM PDT by dancusa (Czars Czuck)
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To: JLS

agreed. I think Beck is making the argument that people have made about Carter winning over Ford. Yes, Carter was bad, but it was his failures that galvanized people and ultimately led to Reagan. If Ford had won, it’s highly unlikely Reagan ever would have President. In that sense Ford would have been worse than Carter because not only would he probably not have been all that different, but he would have prevented Reagan from taking office.

So McCain is worse in the sense that if he had won the same anti-Bush opposition would be in place, but the conservative regrouping and whatever is going on that is going on would not really have taken root.

That said, I’d rather have McCain anyday, and I bet deep down, Glenn would as well. Besides, if you believe what the media and the left told us, McCain wouldn’t be President now anyway. He’d have died by the Spring and the VP would have taken over.


54 posted on 09/26/2009 3:58:55 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: JLS

You are dead wrong and 5 and 7. We probably would have it them by now.


218 posted on 09/26/2009 9:07:06 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: JLS

If McCain had won, we would be getting a watered down version of the militant socialism we’ve got under Obama, but much of the right would’ve been neutralized and the GOP would be completely dead. Imagine a 70+ seat Congress for the Dems in 2010. I’d rather have the enemy in the open than posing as our friend.


221 posted on 09/26/2009 9:14:31 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: JLS; Halfmanhalfamazing
BTW, the tea party protester etc would all still exist. The potential of the American public has always been there. The American public arises when needed. Had McCain been elected, the potential would have still been there. Beck might not have been as famous. You might not have met your latest boy/girl friend at a tea party protest, but that is individual interest not interst of the US.

You could not be more wrong in that statement.

Obama and his actions (as effectively detailed by Rush, Levin, Beck et all), not just Reid and Pelosi, was the real reason the Tea Party movement started. It never would have with McCain.

Furthermore, you most certainly would have had #5 since McCain even had a Bill that attempted to start this whole nonsense off before 2008 and he has repeatedly stated that the "Science is settled" and that he is in support of the Cap and Trade.

And finally, the one thing you did not mention is that McCain would have pushed through Amnesty effectively destroying the GOP for years as he would have driven off and de-moralized the base completely.


262 posted on 09/26/2009 11:26:12 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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