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Obama's Radicalism and the GOP (by TOM TANCREDO)
Rocky Mountain Foundation ^ | 09/22/2009 | Tom Tancredo

Posted on 09/23/2009 9:55:57 AM PDT by Tiger_2009

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To: Tiger_2009

A truly intelligent article - laid out with stark lucidity.


21 posted on 09/23/2009 10:29:28 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Reagan Man

What Tancredo is stating is the obvious.

Short term, sure, McCain would have been better than Obama, but long term, Obama’s victory has placed the difference between conservative political thinking and radical Democrat philosophy in stark contrast.

I liked Tancredo and voted for McCain. But the only reason McCain got MY vote was Sarah Palin. He never fooled me. The enemy within is always more dangerous than the enemy without.


22 posted on 09/23/2009 10:32:04 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: pissant
Sounds like you've bought into the Glenn Beck BS he told Katie Couric the other day.

>>>>>Well, we have a much better chance of defeating ...

I don't want to have Obama-Biden anywhere near the White House. And with the GOP still in a deep coma, any conservative uprising will go nowhere.

Crazy times!

23 posted on 09/23/2009 10:35:36 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SF_Redux
Sadly, I have to agree with you.

There are a few Republican luminaries like Bachmann, etc who should be re-elected.

But the Lindsey Grahams, the Olympia Snowes, etc, need to be flushed very badly. The smell is overpowering.

But we need far more than that. Our enemy is the career politician - the person who feels that spending a few days in Congress approving or vetoing bills they don't have the time to read AND study, the person who feels that entitles them to a PENSION, the kind of individual who would force a socialist health system down the throats of all other Americans while enjoying a special health benefit system funded by taxpayer dollars for themselves, and the kind of individual who is so arrogant as to think “THEY” know what is best for the people who voted them into office and pay their salaries and perks ARE THE REAL ENEMY.

“Profiles in Courage” are really images of arrogance.

We need Term Limits and each and every Congresscritter running for office should have their ears pinned by by this issue.

Look at Ted Kennedy - 50 years in Congress!!!!! Look at Byrd of West Virginia!!!! OR Grassley OR Hatch!!!!

These people have NO idea how normal citizens have to work and support their families.

They have become a House of Lords.

24 posted on 09/23/2009 10:38:17 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
A truly intelligent article - laid out with stark lucidity.

... by a truly intelligent son of Mother America. Maybe, we have a candidate for 2012.

25 posted on 09/23/2009 10:39:21 AM PDT by Tiger_2009
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To: Tenacious 1

“I hope we have somebody to step in and Re-Reaganize this country in 2012”

So do I. And I know EXACTLY who we need:

http://scavenging.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/sarah-palin.jpg

http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/michelebachmannb_10x15.jpg


26 posted on 09/23/2009 10:41:20 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012!!!!!)
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To: Tiger_2009

Bump


27 posted on 09/23/2009 10:41:46 AM PDT by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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To: Reagan Man

Beck said he would have voted for Hillary over McCain. I never suggested that was even a remotely intelligent thing to say or contemplate. But he’s just flapping his gums. He voted for McCain.

I didn’t and wouldn’t. Nor would I ever vote for a marxist like Hillary or Obama.

If the GOP has learned anything, then Pawlenty, Perry, Huck and Mitt will NOT be frontrunners for 2012.

We are going to either turn this ship around and save the republic, or we are going to drift further into socialism and kill all traces of American Exceptionalism.

We better choose wisely.


28 posted on 09/23/2009 10:41:59 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ZULU
McCain never fooled me either. If he hadn't picked Palin or someone else with conservative appeal as his running mate, my vote would have gone elsewhere.

The fact is, long term, Obama-Biden could destroy America!

Right now, people aren't embracing Republicans as much as they are opposing Democrats. The GOP has to give the people good reasons to support them again. That means getting back on a conservative track. So far, that isn't happening.

29 posted on 09/23/2009 10:43:22 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: pissant
I wasn't talking about the Hillary remark. I was referring to Beck's stating that he thought McCain-Palin would have been worse than Obama-Biden. That is just mindless.

If the GOP chooses Pawlenty, Perry, Huck or Mitt in 2012, they will lose. On that we agree.

30 posted on 09/23/2009 10:48:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Tiger_2009

Tancredo has my undying admiration. He’s right up there with Barry Goldwater and Reagan in my book. The GOP mandarins hate him, which makes him all the more endearing, like Sarah. I think we may be reaching the tipping point where enough people realize that the GOP will not be reformed, will never be a conservative party, and the time is right to extinguish it and create a real conservative party. The GOPs total failure to identify with the Tea Party movement should be enough to make this very clear.


31 posted on 09/23/2009 10:56:25 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: Tenacious 1
The worst thing that could happen for the future of this nation is that the economy take off and go gangbusters.

Stunning. Does your wish to achieve a political end mean (i) denying hundreds of thousands of people jobs and (ii) preventing them from reaching a decent living standard? In the event the economy does take off and go gangbusters will you admit that your analysis of the current socioeconomic stituation (and what to do about it) was wrong? You post a soup of contradictions -- glad that McCain lost, disappointed that the federal government has accelerated its growth, not seeing the Reagan heir for the 2012 race. A longer walk in the wilderness seems in order. Reagan, Bush, Clinton are history. McCain was never president. Let's look to the future and make a convincing argument for our 21st Century federal government to adopt the limited scope envisioned by the 18th Century founders of our republic. It is good that over a million gathered in DC on 12Sep09 and it matters little why it took so long for such a rally by the rightists in this country. Angry people vote. God bless them.
32 posted on 09/23/2009 10:56:47 AM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: Reagan Man
“Right now, people aren't embracing Republicans as much as they are opposing Democrats. The GOP has to give the people good reasons to support them again. That means getting back on a conservative track. So far, that isn't happening.”

WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!

Every time the RNC sends you a letter for a contribution, send it back with a note to the effect that as long as they support Judases like Olympia Snowe, Lugar, Sue Collins and the rest with their money, they get nothing from us.

When you send a contribution to an individual conservative Republican out of state or in state, SEND A COPY OF THAT CHECK TO THE RNC. Tell them why.

ATTEND AND SUPPORT THE TEA PARTIES.

In your own state, support local candidates for office who are conservative Republicans with money and your time and work.

If YOU have the personality and time, RUN FOR COMMITTEEMAN on the local or state level. These are dull positions BUT THEY VERY OFTEN CAN IMPACT ELECTIONS. In New Jersey, if an office holder leaves office on the local level, the County Republican Committee chooses the successor. An opportunity for conservatives TO BE HEARD. Here there are two STATE Committee persons per County who have similar power on the state level.

We need to look at the ORGANIZATIONAL effectiveness of ACORN and similar leftist groups and use them as an organizational guide to TAKE BAKC THE GOP.

It is a lot easier than building a party from the group up.

AND REMEMBER - the Republican Leadership Council of Chrissie Whitman and Lewis Eisenberg is the ENEMY WITHIN.

33 posted on 09/23/2009 11:15:44 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
>>>>>Every time the RNC sends you a letter for a contribution, send it back...

LOL Thanks for the advice. I haven't contributed to the RNC-GOP in years. I give directly to conservative candidates only. Like to think I've become more of an independent conservative, who still likes voting in the primaries.

Also, I've been active in local GOP politics since 1968.

34 posted on 09/23/2009 11:24:01 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Theodore R.; Reagan Man
Tancredo ultimately figure out how liberal CO is and did not run again.

Tancredo was in my district. Absolutely safe, and he could have stayed until now and into the foreseeable future, another 10 or 20 years. Bulletproof.

He was the one Congressman thrown out of the Bush White House and told by Karl Rove to 'never darken the door of this White House again' for his unwavering stance on illegals. Voters in his district loved, and still love him.

He’s no more a quitter than Sarah Palin. He quit because he originally ran on term limits, and had overstayed his promise.

If the GOP had more like him the occupant of the White House would be a conservative Republican right now.

35 posted on 09/23/2009 11:34:33 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Tiger_2009

“The “Help (Desperately) Wanted” sign is hanging in the window. Only leaders who can speak the language of liberty and limited government need apply.”

Love it!

No wonder Rove banned Tancredo from the Bush White House.


36 posted on 09/23/2009 11:48:07 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Balding_Eagle
At one time Tancredo was THE man in Colorado. Mister Rocky Mountain High Conservative himself. Not anymore.

His support for Romney was a slap in the face to ALL conservatives. Now he thinks McCain-Palin would have been worse for America than Obama-Biden. Tancredo is nuts!

I appreciated Tancredo’s term limit vow, but the people wanted him to run again. That isn't an issue anylonger. When the CO-GOP and conservatism needed him most, he retired from office. Just like Palin, Tancredo quit. Unlike Tancredo, Palin didn't support Romney and her appeal to conservatives is still flying high.

37 posted on 09/23/2009 11:50:58 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Good.


38 posted on 09/23/2009 12:11:54 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2346483/posts?page=1

Been there, done that, it doesn't work.

The Republican Party at the National and State levels could care less about the peons! Money talks and they care only their global sponsers.

39 posted on 09/23/2009 12:28:21 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: sefarkas
Let me see if I can explain a little better. I'll start with the last line in my post. “I am torn.”

I selfishly wish the economy would turn around. I wish this for the good of my family and for the good of the nation. The conundrum, however, is a quick turn around sends the droves of people that are starting to engage back to their complacency and the shock of the past 9 months wears off. I am encouraged that we are starting to see the start of a more effective, grass roots conservative revolution of sorts.

For the sake of my children and the long term good of the nation, it might take more of this misery for a while to bring more of our population into the fold. We need the 50% of apathetic Americans that don't pay attention and don't vote to actually take an interest. I believe that 70% of those are hard working, tax paying, personally conservative people.

I do not think McCain would have led us out of this and socially I don't think he would have made many if any gains for the good of our cause. Partner that with a Pelosi and Reid lead opposition, it could have been disastrous for another generation. Republicans really screwed up during the Bush years by not embracing a Reagan conservative agenda. They had the majority and the power and apparently got drunk, lazy and complacent with it.

It is a true conundrum and I am not proud of what I think. I have decided a short term rebound and gain for me and my family now will not necessarily advance a free-er more capitol based and smaller government later for my children.

To prove to you my sincerity here, I am slated to be layed off in November. My employer was gracious enough and had enough respect for me to let me know and help me out. I am in private commercial construction. There is none right now! My prospects for finding a job, in December, in my current profession are very bleak. Finding a job at the living standard we are at is impossible and we have been adjusting that standard downward for over a year. We have two vehicles with over 300,000 miles combined and they will need to just keep running. I support a family of 4 on my income and my wife is interviewing for a job as a result of this economy. She is trying to find something at night so we do not have to do daycare. We will have to figure out how to get insurance and we won't take it from the government. It is real anxiety we feel, not fabricated BS about Global Warming or some crap.

So don't take my perspective lightly.

40 posted on 09/23/2009 12:34:43 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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