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To: nufsed
"I made the factual case. Someone is in the WH who has not shown that he is constitutionally qualified for the job. That IS the case."

We are talking about Orly's court case. You are trying to change the subject. Somewhat understandable given what Orly has.

"It is you guys don't want the truth to come out, but it will."

I have no problem with the truth, whatever it may be. Hell, it's a no lose propostion for me. If by some miracle I turn out to be wrong in my interpretation of the facts, then Obama is done. I'd take that trade. But I'm not wrong.

"The burden is on the office holder to prove he is qualified and some judge or appellate court will catch it."

Wrong. There is no such burden at this point in time. The only time that burden existed was prior to being sworn in, and he met it then. You can argue that the burden wasn't strong enough and someone should have been more thorough, but that's a different argument.

We're past that now. He's the president. He has no burden to prove anything to be president. The burden belongs to anyone seeking to change that status quo by going into court and proving a case. But the birthers haven't even begun to come close to meeting that burden. Until they do they are wasting their time in court.

Of course, not all of them are wasting time. Some of them are getting exactly what they want. Money, fame, attention, and making conservatives look like idiots.

50 posted on 09/17/2009 5:49:12 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

If anything needs to be stopped it is the acceptance of the derisive, ‘Birthers’ term; in the same way, people who visit regularly here and who post on occasion are not obligated to think of themselves as or respond to others by the term ‘Freepers.’

Once labels have been attached and insults traded, the process soon heads straight downhill and any and all merits of the debate itself have been lost in the noise.

The greater issue for future situations where trust in the system must be assured is to examine whether a better level of transparency is required as part of the nomination process where the applicant for the office is treated with at least the same scrutiny as a kid applying for his first job delivering the local newspaper.


51 posted on 09/17/2009 7:17:22 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: mlo
Your interpretation of the facts actually means your interpretatrion without 90% of the evidence being presented. The suspect is hiding the evidence. You're interpretatuon is worth squat. I however don't have an interpretation because I haven't seen the evidence.

I am asking for the truth to come out, you are fighting that.

I have said nothing about the attorney except that she is fighting the fight you should be fighting. I pointed out to you that there is more than one way for the truth to come out. She is just one of those. Now you can characterize my statement as you will, but I know what I have said all along. If you want to make up my views, then argue with yourself.

55 posted on 09/17/2009 9:26:06 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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