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To: Frantzie
After reading the judge's comments yesterday, it struck me that his apparent opinion is that since Congress approved 0bama, albeit on possibly false certification, that the matter is closed.

Since the founding of the Republic, Congress has done a number of things that were overturned because they ran counter to The Constitution, and since the Constitution mandates that the President be "natural born" no acts, or laws passed by Congress can counter this, because The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If those that think they are more "enlightened" and wish to do otherwise, they are free to attempt to amend it, but as for now, no two-bit commie judge can countermand that law.

5 posted on 09/17/2009 12:06:12 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - You Lie!!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
The irresponsible confirmation in the Senate of the irresponsible tallying of votes in the Electoral College does not supersede the clear meaning of Article II, Section 1. If it is allowed to stand, disregard of the Constitution by all branches of the government would be openly established. To all who believe that the Constitution is the government’s basic law, that the Constitution is the only instrument that gives the enactments of Congress and the commands of the Executive validity, it will be clear that the rule of law in the United States is a fiction.

from "Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report"
6 posted on 09/17/2009 12:09:46 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Natural born is an intrinsic characteristic of a person. It is like being Caucasian, black, brown eyed or blue eyed.

What if congress voted that a short person was tall? Would that make them tall? Of course not!

Congress can vote a **thousand** times that a person is president, but if he is not natural born he can NOT be president. If he is in the White House assuming the duties of president and is not natural born, he is a FRAUD!

When our legislative process has broken down, there must be some remedy.

12 posted on 09/17/2009 12:18:11 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

and since the Constitution mandates that the President be “natural born” no acts, or laws passed by Congress can counter this, because The Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
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Exactly! Being natural born is an intrinsic quality of a person in the same way that race or eye color is intrinsic.

Congress can vote a thousand times over that a person has blue eyes but if the eyes are brown, they will continue to be brown.

In the same way, Congress can approve a person a MILLION times over, but if he is not natural born he can NOT be president. If a non-natural born person occupies the position of president, at best he can merely be a criminal fraud and a traitor to his country.


26 posted on 09/17/2009 12:40:41 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty; All

“Since the founding of the Republic, Congress has done a number of things that were overturned because they ran counter to The Constitution, and since the Constitution mandates that the President be “natural born” no acts, or laws passed by Congress can counter this, because The Constitution is the supreme law of the land.”

Well said. No election nor negligence by congress can undo any part of the Constitution. The SCOTUS really needs to be hearing a case on this to definitively define what “natural born” in the Constitution means. Or, Congress can define it and be subject to suit which the SCOTUS will have to decide. Ultimately, the SCOTUS is going to have to decide this issue.


45 posted on 09/17/2009 3:50:49 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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