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To: The Sons of Liberty

No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed.


34 posted on 09/16/2009 10:14:50 AM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: Dan Middleton
No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand.

John McCain did. The Congress saw the question so important, they passed a resolution declaring (clarifying) him a Natural Born Citizen.

That is where the entire birther movement started. During the McCain incident, the New York Times ran a story about what documents all the candidates released. They pointed out that Obama hadn't released anything. Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter, Phil Berg, jumped on this and started the Obama Birther movement, raising the first questions and doing most of the fighting on the issue up until recently.

40 posted on 09/16/2009 10:17:52 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Dan Middleton
It’s always been assumed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Because it has always been self-evident! Armies of friends, relatives, and townsfolk stood ready to testify.

So?...Since Obama does not have the high quality standard of having fellow citizens ready to stand forth to testify before God of his natural born status, then it is not unreasonable for him to present the lesser standard of a few modest documents.

An honest man would be **HONORED** to promptly prove to all that he was natural born and qualified to be president. That he has fought so vigorously not to do this says plenty about his character. It also tells us a lot about the character of the people defending him.

45 posted on 09/16/2009 10:21:18 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Dan Middleton

You know that is a lie, so why are you spewing it at FR?


47 posted on 09/16/2009 10:22:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Dan Middleton

“No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed.”

Since Chester Arthur (about whom it turned out later to have been a mistaken assumption), there has been no doubt about the circumstances of birth—until now.


65 posted on 09/16/2009 10:34:35 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Dan Middleton

re: prove they were eligible . . It’s always been assumed.

And with good reason, they didn’t go to extraordinary lengths to keep their birth certificates from being released.


70 posted on 09/16/2009 10:39:49 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: Dan Middleton
No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed.

McCain did.

79 posted on 09/16/2009 10:45:45 AM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: Dan Middleton
No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed.

No other presidential candidate came on the scene under such a self induced cloud of obfuscation, distortions and lies concerning his past from birth until candidacy.

That's the real issue.

A conflicting set of birth documents

No full disclosure on school records

No full disclosure on employment records

No full disclosure with ties to domestic terrorists

Who is Barack Obama really, and who is helping cover his tracks?

86 posted on 09/16/2009 10:51:26 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Proud FR Mobster)
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0bama’s Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

This is an important feature because K-records for original school entry would have contained the following:

1. His REAL Birth Certificate.

2. An application with the following:

—1. His Legal name.
—2. Parents or Legal Guardians’ names.
—3. Date of Birth
—4. Place of Birth
—5. Vaccination Records
(revealing a timeline to the place and DOB.)

It also is important for two reasons:

A. The Dept. of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

B. There would have been NO shameful low-test scores, NO embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and NO trails of fraudulent funding to hide which could possibly ‘excuse’ the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records.

For the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public, his true life story.

This is different. Hawaii should be able to verify he attended their school since he is featured in class photographs. State and federal tax dollars paid for his initial year of education. Why is there no documentation?

This is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ of an intentionally erased life of a fraudulent conman and it reeks of complicity by officials within the State of Hawaii’s Dept. of Health & Dept. of Education.
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94 posted on 09/16/2009 10:58:11 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Dan Middleton
No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed

Wrong. John McCain was challenged and produced his documentation, including his birth certificate.

121 posted on 09/16/2009 12:10:57 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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