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To: kidd
The COLB that was posted on the web (by the leftist fightthesmears.com) was full of redacted information

The only thing that was redacted in the original scan was the certificate number. Photos of the same document, without redaction, were later posted on factcheck's website.

and does not contain the country of birth...

It says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. Perhaps you slept through geography class when you were in grade school, but Honolulu happens to be in the United States. Thankfully, most people are educated enough know that.

it is a computer generated form, derived from a database.

Yes, as are most birth certificates these days. What's your point? As long as it has a raised seal and registrar's signature, every Federal agency accepts it as proof of US birth.

This article notes that there were 4 ways to get a Hawaiian certificate of birth in 1961, some not requiring documentation: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304157/posts

Yes, that's what the article claims. Unfortunately, it fails to substantiate those claims.

Certain offices of the state of Hawaii do not accept the COLB that was posted

That is not true, and again, the article you link that makes the claim fails to substantiate it.

Regarding Maya's COLB, the only evidence you have is, yet again, the unsubstantiated claim of some blogger.

The relevancy of the newspaper article is related to who generated the vault copy of the birth certificate. And yes, the grandparents could have generated the vault copy, as that was permissible in 1961 Hawaii.

So you claim. Unfortunately, yet again, you do not have a shred of evidence to back up your claim.

18 posted on 09/11/2009 12:53:16 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
The only thing that was redacted in the original scan was the certificate number. Photos of the same document, without redaction, were later posted on factcheck's website.

I'm looking at the factcheck.org website right now. The redaction is still there. Perhaps you have information that you'd like to share with the rest of us?

Perhaps you know which hospital Obama was born at? He doesn't. But the vault certificate might state it.

Who witnessed his birth?

Certain offices of the state of Hawaii do not accept the COLB that was posted...That is not true, and again, the article you link that makes the claim fails to substantiate it.

Please provide a link to back your claim.

it is a computer generated form, derived from a database...Yes, as are most birth certificates these days. What's your point?

The computer generated form, in light of Hawaiian law in 1961, lacks sufficient information to verify NBC status.

This article notes that there were 4 ways to get a Hawaiian certificate of birth in 1961, some not requiring documentation: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304157/posts... Yes, that's what the article claims. Unfortunately, it fails to substantiate those claims

It really will help you on you path to learning to follow the links in the article. Townhall.com has similar information.

21 posted on 09/11/2009 1:59:41 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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