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I'm curious, how do you know there is a vault copy of a long form? No one in Hawaiian vital records or the Health Dept has stated that. And the exhibits Barry Soetoro has displayed ont he Internet display a June 2007 supposed date of issue. Of course, since only Barry's hacks have held these exhibits, and the Hawaiiian officials have NEVER authenticated any of Barry's exhibits, just how is it that you can assert there is a long form in HI vital records?

BTW, were you aware that there were four different ways to obtain a CoLB in 1961? Were you aware that HI just this summer changed their naming designations for certificates and certifications?

I'm curious, how do you know there is a vault copy of a long form? No one in Hawaiian vital records or the Health Dept has stated that.

They have stated that although they computerized all the records in 2001, they did not destroy any of the original records. Some sort of birth record for Obama must have existed for it to be computerized.

... the Hawaiiian officials have NEVER authenticated any of Barry's exhibits,

They have stated that they consulted the records they have on file. You may believe that they would not raise a ruckus if Obama was openly and notoriously displaying something that totally did not match those records. I just don't believe that.

BTW, were you aware that there were four different ways to obtain a CoLB in 1961?

I knew that there were at least two types of birth records available and that one of them was available on the testimony of one witness. As I understand it, these records were originally labeled differently. If the only type of birth record now issued by the DOH is the "Certification", then it is not ruled out that Obama's original BC was one of these alterate documents. That is one reason Obama needs to release his original BC.

Were you aware that HI just this summer changed their naming designations for certificates and certifications?

No. But it is not clear to me why that is relevant.