Judge Carter is Granting us Expedited Discovery Immediately

Resistnet ^ | September 10, 2009 | Phil Dedrick

[campaignPete R-CT]

I don’t have a ping list.

[OafOfOffice]

I am not suggesting anything. I have no clue what Orly plans. I just know what I have read about obama’s possible crimes if he is found out to falsified records. There are probably many more that I don’t know about.

And yeah, if it happened the way it would with you or I, we would be in prison. Somehow Obama escapes everything. I feel like we are missing something in the conspiracy to protect him.

[DJ MacWoW]

He has hidden too much for that to be true.

[etraveler13]

B = Birth Certificate
I = is
R = Required
T = to
H = Honestly
E = Elect
R = Representative

[rolling_stone]

As for the COLB there is no doctor, hopital or witness information that can be and should be independently verified. Vital records could also contain adoption information or name changes that are not on the short form. That is why the long form is requested and would be best evidence IMO. If it goes to trial they may even have the custodian of records in Hawaii testify about how records are kept, how changes are made, procedures, where they are kept, chain of custody etc. The Kenyan BC has doctor and hospital info and Orly is trying to get it authenticated by Kenya.

The long form is available by court order so that is what should be produced. For example California quit using short forms in 2003 and now only has long forms, due to too much fraud.

[papasmurf]

dang! I just get this now? Darn, darn darn!

I’m less than 2 hours from Columbus.

[American Constitutionalist]

Here is what judge Carter said :

" Judge Carter, “If President Obama fits the qualifications under the rules of the court, the longer the delay the more credibility it lends to the complaint,” he said. “If President Obama does not meet the court’s requirements, the delay also causes a problem.” "

[etraveler13]

Like the ventriloquist, the point is not to see the lips move....

[rolling_stone]

Not for nothing, but the statute of limitations for fraud is 2 years.

When does the statue begin to run and is that for civil or criminal and oral or written fraud?

[papasmurf]

Columbus is in Harris County. You almost can’t get any more Conservative than that.

As I just got this ping, like you, I can only hope it is true.

[rolling_stone]

thank you for your reply, so are you for or against Obamacare?

[etraveler13]

Quite right. A COLB (Certificate of Live Birth), is not the same as a Long Form Birth Certificate, and is not good enought to prove that your Natural Born. It is not even proven that the Obama Campaign put this on the web. Many say it was the dailykos that did it.
However the Kenyan Long Form Birth Certificate provides all the information including all you have mentioned. It seems very credible. I have personally checked out every line, and found no errors. Up to and including the fact that they only listed 1936 for Obama Sr’s birth date.

[Nachum]

It is a good start. Now we’ll see if it continues.

[pissant]

Coddling another troll, eh?

[DJ MacWoW]

Ok.

[El Gato]

Shall we go to DC and stand before the White House and yell “GET OUT OF CHENEY”S HOUSE!”?

Done that, but in front of the Alamo in 2000.

[American Constitutionalist]

" In fairness, I’ve lost track of who is filing what at this point. Is Berg even an attorney? "

Of course he is a attorney, where have you been on this ?

He filed a suit in court last year even before the election, and ohh yeah ? BTW ? Phil Berg was a Hillary supporter and Democrat.

[reagandemocrat]

The Best Evidence Rule applies, as well as this jury instruction:

“2.02 FAILURE TO PRODUCE AVAILABLE STRONGER EVIDENCE

If weaker and less satisfactory evidence is offered by a party, when it was within that party’s ability to produce stronger and more satisfactory evidence, the evidence offered should be viewed with distrust.”

Applied here, since it’s within Obama’s power to produce his original birth certificate, and he refuses to do so, Obama’s online computer-generated certification must be viewed with distrust.

[American Constitutionalist]

" The problem I have is that birthers - and their attorney - don’t seem to know how to approach this question. Orly is trying to turn this into some kind of weird quasi-criminal suit "

There is nothing " quasi " about defrauding the American public of a Constitutional eligible President.

Ohh come on stevie weavie96, please give Miss Orly some slack, I mean, come on, she grew up in a oppressive communist state of the former Soviet Union ( you remember them ? don't you ) .... she probably saw her family oppressed, and was poor....

[Non-Sequitur]

Coddling another troll, eh?

Or as I like to call them, Another Supporter of the Truth and the Law.