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To: GBA
However, I have learned that a COLB from Hawaii in the early 1960s is no guarantee that the holder of that COLB was born in Hawaii.

So now you need to prove he was born in Kenya. He says he wasn't. The state of Hawaii won't say he wasn't. The Grandma interview is problematic because it's through a biased translator and she immediately denies meaning that Jr. was born there. The Kenya cert that Orly's trying to submit to the court has its own problems and not even WND buys it.

And Obama Sr. being African, especially if he had no intention of becoming an American citizen, would mean obama could not be a natural born citizen.

Tougher case to make. One US citizen parent+born on US soil has a pretty strong argument of "natural born" according to what case law is there. The strongest argument that I've seen is that he isn't a US citizen if he was born in Kenya because his mother wasn't old enough under the residency requirement. That just leaves you to prove Kenyan birth.

210 posted on 09/10/2009 4:28:00 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I really don't know where he was born. The media and others have taken the "born in Kenya" idea and run with it to change the public definition of "birthers" to mean those who think obama was born in Kenya. I just want obama to provide the same personal documentation others, including Juan McCain, have provided. As it is, obama is a blank slate, with no history backed up by a paper trail. Normally I would find that curious, but with a President, I find it disturbing.

Regarding one parent + born on US soil being the basis for NBC status? Perhaps you are well versed in case law and know this for a fact, I do not.

When reviewing what the Founding Fathers intended a President's loyalty and allegiance to be and to what country, they were clear that the President be loyal only to the US and not have a divided loyalty from having dual nationality parents.

Moreover, though this is not as true as it was then, the nationality of the father carried greater weight at that time. In that day, it would seem likely a child of a non-American father would possibly have dual citizenship or more likely be considered a citizen of the father's country. Either way, while that child might very well be a citizen, he or she would not be a NBC and therefore not eligible to be President as intended by the FFs and stipulated in the Constitution.

obama's background has the additional citizenship possibilities from his step-father and his lack of a paperwork trail makes me wonder how he declared himself to the various schools he attended and to any scholarship boards who might have helped finance his education.

His actions and lack of actions make me question his past and laugh at his campaign promise of transparency. I was born and raised in America and people who say one thing and do another are called liars even if they are also called the President.

I don't blame anyone in the military to question his authority to give them orders. War often requires a soldier to kill another human being, but the soldier can take some solace and refuge in his or her belief that they are following just orders from someone Constitutionally eligible to give them those orders.

obama is giving our soldiers reason to doubt, to lose their faith and to question. To continue in this way as he seem content to do, obama is showing his lack of integrity and character and acts like someone with something to hide.

231 posted on 09/10/2009 5:39:33 PM PDT by GBA
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