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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What matters is the law. If “natural born” is not defined legally, then it means nothing in this discussion. That’s the point.

What is defined is “native born” (iirc.) It has to do with age, years residence, etc.

The truth is that one month after his birthdate, his mom was enrolled in college on the west coast, Washington, I think.

That means that if born in Kenya, someone’s gonna have to come up with a plane ticket to prove it.

Can YOU prove that Obama is NOT a native born citizen?


135 posted on 09/10/2009 10:25:34 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins; Drew68

People may or may not be able to prove Obama is a native citizen and not foreign-born, evidenced by his actual birth certificate, wherever that may be.

An easier route to establish his disqualification for the Presidency (keeping in mind his father was a British/Kenyan citizen) is to state Obama is not a natural-born citizen according to what that phrase meant at the time it was written. So please read the following link...

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/law-of-nations-and-not-english-common.html


189 posted on 09/10/2009 3:09:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins
What matters is the law. If “natural born” is not defined legally, then it means nothing in this discussion. That’s the point.

Oh it means something, it will be up to the Courts to say what that is.

What is defined is “native born” (iirc.) It has to do with age, years residence, etc.

No "native born" is not even used in the law. The law, passed under Congress power to define a uniform rule of naturalization, defines who is a citizen at birth. (they redundantly include those born in the United States, the 14th amendment defines them as citizens anyway).

But none of those define "natural born", and that is the term the Constitution uses, but not in the 14th amendment, just Article II section 1.

Interestingly the law also defines naturalization, (how it can define a Constitutional term, I haven't a clue) as making an alien into a citizen *after* birth. How they can have a section of the same part of the US code that defines citizenship *at* birth with that definition, I'm also not quite sure. Of course all they would really need to do would be to remove the offending definition, or at least change "at birth" to "upon birth" or some such. It's a small detail, but I wish they would be consistent.

230 posted on 09/10/2009 5:34:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: xzins
That means that if born in Kenya, someone’s gonna have to come up with a plane ticket to prove it.

Or a Kenyan Birth Certificate. But it would not need to be Kenya, any place outside the US would give the same result. Canada for example.

236 posted on 09/10/2009 5:52:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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