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Birthers Get Their Day in Court – Obama Must Now Prove His Citizenship
examiner.com ^ | September 9, 2009 | Kimberly Dvorak

Posted on 09/10/2009 4:54:47 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: wolfcreek
I see Barry’s lawyers slapping down the same bogus piece of paper he posted on his website and saying this is it, you get no more.

But at least it will be a physical piece of paper and not an electronic copy. Experts can determine if it's a forgery or if it's been tampered with if they can examine it.

61 posted on 09/10/2009 6:14:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bluebeard16
Remember the court date is 1/26/10. The election is just prior to that date.

This is what confused me.

62 posted on 09/10/2009 6:15:55 AM PDT by pilipo (GOP=Gutless Old Party)
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To: PA-RIVER

Dr, Edwin Viera who is an attorney and pretty sharp on constitutional issues has said if a scenario likes this plays out - the Joint Cheifs may have to move to have the military remove him from office if he does not resign.

You will also probably have 55% or more of the country wanting him to go. The sooner Judge Carter gets a answer the better because the 2010 elections are coming.


63 posted on 09/10/2009 6:16:13 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: NMEwithin
Wonder why he didn't rule on this motion? The case can't move forward without discovery...

First he has to rule on the defense's motion to dismiss. They submitted that last week, and the judge gave Taitz 30 days to respond. They'll have a hearing on that October 5th and following that the judge will either grant or deny the motion. If he grants it, game over. If he denies it, then discovery can be started in earnest.

64 posted on 09/10/2009 6:17:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: DJ Frisat
“give it a rest?”

I'll “give it a rest” when Hussein provides his ORIGINAL Birth Certificate...and not a second sooner, thank you.

65 posted on 09/10/2009 6:17:41 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: stevie_d_64; wolfcreek
Already, Axelrod, in consultation with 0dinga, Van Jones, and Emanuel, has ordered the Secret Service to take possession of Barry's body scans (among them, bottom-of-the-foot scans) done at Walter Reed.

Too bad they were digitized scans from the start!   After all, who's good at recognizing a stream of apparently meaningless, inconvenienced electrons zipping around the globe?

Multiple fingerprint experts have already determined that Barry's baby footprint matches the big boy's. Now it's just a question of when the testimony will be heard, hopefully in open court, and appropriately acted upon.

HF
P.S. ...and no, I don't really know this, or at least, "all of it."

66 posted on 09/10/2009 6:18:02 AM PDT by holden
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To: concerned about politics
A presidential recall and new election.

Nothing in the Constitution allows for a recall or a new election. Odds are it's President Biden for the duration. And if Biden gets tossed too, then God help us but it's President Pelosi.

67 posted on 09/10/2009 6:18:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I see...thanks for the explanation


68 posted on 09/10/2009 6:19:34 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Bluebeard16
The election is just prior to that date.

Ten and a half months after, you mean.

69 posted on 09/10/2009 6:20:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Talisker
“The entire Federal Judiciary?”

Last I checked, Judge Carter is part of the “Federal Judiciary”.

Now run along and quit bothering me with your lame posts.

70 posted on 09/10/2009 6:21:24 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

What if there is no proof that Obama is NOT a native born US citizen?

What if no one can decide the definition of “natural born?”

If there is no legal definition, and the case defaults to the law about “native born”, and there’s no way to prove he is NOT, then what?

His mother’s and grandparents residences, attendance at college, and other small items establish Obama’s PRESENCE in the US as an infant. Granted he could have been a week or two old before he actually arrived, but if there’s no way to prove otherwise, then I think it defaults to the US Constitution’s failure to define natural born or to establish a body to oversee eligibility.

All he has to say is “there is no original birth certificate. It was lost. But, we have all this circumstantial and testimonial evidence.”


71 posted on 09/10/2009 6:21:26 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Gay State Conservative

If this is so important to this judge, I don’t understand that he can’t CLEAR HIS DOCKET to move this along. I know legal things move slowly, but this nation can’t wait much longer!


72 posted on 09/10/2009 6:21:28 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: DJ Frisat

The Judge is used to being in impossible situations. He was wounded and received a Purple Heart and Bronze Star at Khe Sanh in Vietnam. If anyone knows about that battle, they will understand.

The cat is out of the bag on Obama too. Probably 55% of the population do NOT like him and after last night the number could go higher. He is no longer hip but an embarassing joke.

He will send an order to Hawaii to provide the documents. Obama can try to appeal but once Carter tells HI to pony up the Long Form BC - Hussein is in big trouble. They will try to file a protective order to keep it secret for in-camera examination but why? What is there to hide?


73 posted on 09/10/2009 6:21:40 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: SeaHawkFan
his is in essence a quo warranto action against Obama, and as such, is a lawsuit against him in his personal capacity so there are no separation of powers or jurisdictional issues.

A Writ of Quo Warrento cannot be brought by anyone except the United States in any district court except for the D.C. district.

74 posted on 09/10/2009 6:25:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You are correct! Coffee has not yet kicked in!


75 posted on 09/10/2009 6:25:30 AM PDT by Bluebeard16
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To: xzins

[All he has to say is “there is no original birth certificate.]

Then what did he use for passport ID, college applications etc. etc.?


76 posted on 09/10/2009 6:26:35 AM PDT by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
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To: Bluebeard16
Yes they are. With a Republican controlled House and Senate we might just get justice. (I’m thinking positively here.)

Even if that happens it's 16 months away.

77 posted on 09/10/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SeaHawkFan

Lawyers can raise issues regardless of merit and tie things up in court for eons. Anyway:

“...discussions in Congress suggest that Quo Warranto does not apply to Constitutional Officers whose election, appointment and removal are explicitly described in the Constitution.”
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/quo-warranto-no-applicable-to-the-president/


78 posted on 09/10/2009 6:26:59 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: mbynack

We have got to pound him with everything we got


79 posted on 09/10/2009 6:27:31 AM PDT by mel
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To: Non-Sequitur

How is it that Biden would be appointed as Pres? If Obama is found to be a fraud, then his entire candidacy was fraudulent. Doesn’t that make his election to the presidency fraudulent ex post facto? That should nullify everything and mandate an immediate new vote for president, no?


80 posted on 09/10/2009 6:27:44 AM PDT by rarestia (Confutatis maledictis, voca me cum benedictis)
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