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To: fieldmarshaldj

You don’t treat a woman as a second class citizen. You care for her and help her. You aren’t treating her as a slave by not allowing her to kill a child. I am sorry but men and women are not the same. Men can’t have babies so there is no way to treat them equal under the law in this case. If a man was sodomized would you commit further violence against him? Would you let him do something to harm someone else even if it helped him get over what happened to him? You don’t commit more violence against a women either. A women shouldn’t KILL her child even if it would help her to heal which it will not do anyway.

I had a miscarriage last year, I was only 4 weeks pregnant. My family mourned for that baby. I was afraid I was going to have to have a D and C done. A friend of mine had to have a D and C after she miscarried and she said it was horrible. An spontaneous abortion in itself is horrible, surgery to finish the job even worse. I could not imagine if I had chosen to have the surgery to actually take the life of my baby. You don’t seem to understand the fact that this baby is alive. Abortion is killing a living human being. You keep calling the baby a product of violence. The baby is just as much an innocent as the woman. The women loses her innocence and does untold harm to her own conscience if she decides to murder her baby. She will have a harder time recovering from THAT than the rape. ABORTION IS MORE VIOLENCE, NOT AN ANSWER.


39 posted on 09/11/2009 7:33:50 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

We’re not going to see eye to eye on this. But make no mistake, forcing a young woman, by the state, to carry the product of an act of violence to term is telling her she HAS no rights. She didn’t ask, nor willfully engage, in behavior that would bring about mutual consent for the creation of a child. You’ve already decided that a fetus that hasn’t reached viability has more rights than an adult woman, who remains at the mercy of her rapist’s actions for at least the next 9 months. I cannot fathom how wrong that is (even if your intentions towards the unborn are honorable). And when I speak of equal, I’m talking equal rights under the law. Men and women are different, but basic rights, and victims rights, should be clear-cut and not unequal. If men could carry children, you better believe they’d have a rape/incest clause.

I am sorry for your loss of your unborn child. As I’ve stated, there is no good outcome in any of this, but if you can convince a woman — willing — not to terminate at the start, go right ahead, kind persuasion isn’t coercion, but I cannot, in this instance, give a wholesale endorsement to the state dictating a woman remain a victim of a crime she did not consent to for 9 months. I put myself in a young woman’s shoes, and my response is, I’d want that reminder of violence, of violation, out of me at once. She needs to decide what is right for her as a victim of crime and not have the state dictate to her what she will do, making her cease to be a free citizen. Totalitarianism is never right, even when done in the righteous cause of morality.


42 posted on 09/11/2009 7:52:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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