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To: CottShop; ColdWater
For the record, the whole Christian vs. Christian stuff is pretty funny to atheists. You guys make religion sound so unappealing, petty, insular, silly and childish.

Anywy, you wrote, "...that Behe and Demski somehow are the end all be all of ID."

This bothers me as well. While it IS fun to point out Behe's own words to those who think he IS an important ID thinker, it is equally important to note that the entire ID idea is over 200 years old and hasn't changed a whit in that time. Still no theory, still no evidence.

Thanks for bringing this point out.
331 posted on 09/10/2009 10:58:20 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke

[[For the record, the whole Christian vs. Christian stuff is pretty funny to atheists.]]

For hte record- ANYONE that claims to be ‘working their way to heaven by being good’ isn’t a Christian, as God explained in His word quite adequately, regardless of what they claim- so your petty little accusation falls flat

[[ it is equally important to note that the entire ID idea is over 200 years old and hasn’t changed a whit in that time. Still no theory, still no evidence.]]

Sure htere is- Design in nture, at hte complexity levels witnessed in biology show the NEED for an intelligence- there’s oplenty of evidence showing both this NEED, and the FACT that nature is incapable of creatiung Irreducible complexity, especially on the grandscale seen in nature- plenty enough in ID to show the hypothesis of Macroevolution falls flat on it’s face, and that an intellgience is NEEDED behind hte designs witnessed- just as any forensic scientist discovers- The theory is that nature is incapable, and that an ID is NEEDED- one need NOT describe the atributes of the intellgience in order ot hsow the NEED for a designer- but you’ll apparently never udnerstand htis or admit this as we’ve discussed this many many many times here on FR and still you insist ID must somehow prove God exists with hard concrete evidence before ID can be accepted- (But hte proof is all around you- you just refuse to cede ANY of it, and apaprently htink that constantly degrading, insulting and maligning Creationists and ID’ists that htis somehow invalidates the NEED for a designer- it doesn’t- no more so than constantly degrading, maligning, and insulting the Myans refutes the FACT that htey existed based o nthe evidnece that shows they infact DID design great empires of compelxity that NEEDED a designer- silly rabbit


351 posted on 09/10/2009 1:06:30 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: whattajoke

[[still no evidence.]]

This is a balded faced lie- there’s plenty of evidence showing hte NEED for a designer- Macroevolutionists liek yourself simpyl wave the magic wand of dismissal and pretend it doesn’t exist or matter- but the fact is, it does and it’s devestatign to the hypothesis of macroevolution- but thanks fer playin


354 posted on 09/10/2009 1:11:22 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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