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1 posted on 09/09/2009 10:05:49 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Ping!


2 posted on 09/09/2009 10:06:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

God is great. God can evolve anything.


3 posted on 09/09/2009 10:07:00 AM PDT by Tax Government
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To: GodGunsGuts

A lot of strange things can happen in 4.5 billion years.


4 posted on 09/09/2009 10:08:51 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping. Interesting article, although the thread appears headed toward a food fight.


5 posted on 09/09/2009 10:09:17 AM PDT by colorado tanker (Martha's Vineyard is great! Hey, honey, let's take a drive . . . .)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Here’s the last line from the article:

“See? Just like it says in Genesis! The end!”

Creation “science” is a fraud to which Christians of weak faith cling desperately. I say that as a Christian who suffers from no such delusions.


6 posted on 09/09/2009 10:11:40 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m guessing a lot of the problem is simply error and wishful thinking on the part of the palaeontologists involved. Not exactly an, ahem, exact science, this show of piecing bones together.

I’m still trying to figure out how they reconstructed an entire proto-human skeleton out of three knuckle bones from an extinct species of peccary.


9 posted on 09/09/2009 10:14:32 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Cambrian rock layers contain fossils that represent almost every modern phylum of animal, plus many that are now extinct.

Well, then, if your creationist theories are correct, we should see in the Cambrian all classes under the Phylum chordata represented - you know, anything with a spinal chord - and that includes fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals. Instead, this is what representatives of chordata look like in the Cambrian:

Nice lying through omission, by failing to mention that most classes of the apex phyla chordata are NOT present in the Cambrian. But I've come to expect that from creationist Young Earth charlatans.

12 posted on 09/09/2009 10:16:17 AM PDT by dirtboy
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RE :”This variety of features eludes an evolutionary explanation. “

Wow! What a creationist breakthrough! This proves all the worlds animals lived on Noah’s Ark together for sure. Rewrite the textbooks!


13 posted on 09/09/2009 10:16:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: GodGunsGuts

bookmark


14 posted on 09/09/2009 10:17:30 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

per usual, the anticreation/ID folks have got nothign more than petty ‘Nuh Uh’s’ and ‘Christians creationists and ID folks stink’ Guess when they’ve run out of ammo- all they can manage is silly spitwads and insults- interesti ng article and find- would be nice to see the evos explain the cambrian explosion- but I guess all we’re goign to get fro mthem is ‘creationsits are liars’ and ‘creationists are psuedoscientists’ or at hte very best- all we’ll get ‘of course there’s no fossils before hte cambrian explosion- conditions probably weren’t right to preserve them’ lol


24 posted on 09/09/2009 10:46:17 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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Brian Thomas M.S.* needs to familiarize himself with the relevant literature before putting pen to paper. Start with this one, The Burgess Shale Anomalocaridid Hurdia and Its Significance for Early Euarthropod Evolution http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/323/5921/1597.

And as far as the platypus is concerned, he could sneak a peek at Platypus Genome Reveals Secrets of Mammal Evolution http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/05/080507-platypus.html. See? Science isn't so hard when you pull your head out.

25 posted on 09/09/2009 10:46:38 AM PDT by stormer
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Yes- be sure to head on over to National Geographic for all your evolution indoctrination lol- they’ve got ‘the truth’ dontchaknow


26 posted on 09/09/2009 10:53:40 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Bush’s fault. Always was, always will be.


35 posted on 09/09/2009 11:12:47 AM PDT by Clioman
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Wow....2 pieces of Brian Thomas *MS tripe in one day....sucha glorious day it must be...

Paleontologists have been piecing together this strange creature’s body parts, which look as though they were taken from an array of totally different sea animals.

So an animal had seemingly similar features from other sea creatures. OMG, such a discovery!!

This variety of features eludes an evolutionary explanation.

Actually, it eludes nothing, dear Brian....you just need to claim it so for your worshipers to bite onto.

The parts of this particular fossilized animal had previously been described separately and given different names, as though they belonged to different creatures

AND??? Taxonomy has never been perfect, ESPECIALLY when dealing with squashed fossils.

And some of those taxa, or kinds,

Whoa...whoa...whoa...last article had SPECIES as "kind"....now it's just generic "taxa." What IS the definition of "kind", Brian?

Its initial discoverer thought that “the mouth parts were a jellyfish, the front legs were shrimp, the main body a sea cucumber, and a tear-drop shaped shell, another animal.”

It's initial discoverer....IN WHAT YEAR? Be honest, Brian....1909. LOTS of weird things have been discovered since. This is what happens when trying to interpret a 3 dinemsional creature form a 2 dinemsional fossil in the scientific stone ages, Brian.

But it makes sense as a created animal with mosaic features, which are shared among otherwise disparate organisms.

Ya don't say.....exactly HOW would it make sense as a "created" animal, Brian?

None of its features are transitional, but are instead found fully-formed in other creatures today that have no relationship to one another in any evolutionary scenario.

THIS is how it "makes sense"????? What you're saying, dear Brian, is that Walcott stumbled upon a graveyard of Gods Mr. Potatoe Head throw aways?

Ah yes....the goold ole platypus. Are you going to forget that there ARE ancestors of the platypus, Brian? Suuuuuure you are. Is this ignorance or an outright lie? Steropodon, Teinolophos, Obdurodon...

Let's see:

Use of the word "kind"....check.

Use of the word "design"...check.

All that's needed now is a false conclusion...........check.

37 posted on 09/09/2009 11:26:21 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
One animal fossil in particular would win the weird prize, if there were one.

Weirder than this?


51 posted on 09/09/2009 1:00:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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“Hurdia was appropriately assigned its own unique phylum name.”

—Really? That phylum name being what? Does anyone have a clue what he’s talking about? From everything I’ve found “hurdia” is a genus uncontroversially in the family of Anomalocarididae, which is comprised of several other genera, and which are in the phylum Lobopodia.

“None of its features are transitional, but are instead found fully-formed in other creatures today that have no relationship to one another in any evolutionary scenario.”

—Actually, according to Science mag article he cited, it seems to fit in quite nicely:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/323/5921/1597/FIG4


125 posted on 09/09/2009 3:13:48 PM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts; FormerRep; Buck W.

I want to apologize to you ‘GGG’, for hijacking your thread and turning it into a cooking show.

If you’re anywhere near Hershey, PA in the next few days, let me know, and you can stop in for some “eggplant parmagiani”.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled “new earth” vs. “old earth” debate, which will continue indefinitely!

And have a nice day! 8^)


256 posted on 09/09/2009 9:32:00 PM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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Cambrian rock layers contain fossils that represent almost every modern phylum of animal, plus many that are now extinct.

I can't get over this opening salvo of a sentence that is quite a painful example of "lying by omisssion."

"Almost every modern phylum of animal." Except the huge more modern ones it doesn't. Brian Thomas *MS is going from silly goofball to serious a-hole rather quickly. He is TOTALLY LYING THROUGH OMISSION. He is obviously a huge liberal, as this is a favorite tactic of theirs.
360 posted on 09/10/2009 2:37:35 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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