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To: Arec Barrwin; wendy1946; dsc; cranked; mysterio; wireplay

No matter how bad drugs are for you, prohibition is a violation of Liberty borne out of the same union of state and religion that brought about the prohibition of alcohol but without the same formality of Constitutional authority.

People on the Right who claim to believe in rights will never be consistent so long as they support anti-drug laws but will be picking and chusing which Constitutional rights to recognize according to their own whims, the same as any Leftist.


13 posted on 09/07/2009 3:43:31 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Libertarian much?


14 posted on 09/07/2009 3:45:09 PM PDT by cranked
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“No matter how bad drugs are for you, prohibition is a violation of Liberty”

The question is not whether drugs are bad for the user. The issue is that they are bad for all around him. His “right” to seek intoxication (and I put the word “right” in quotation marks because I do not believe that God bestows any such right upon us) stops where it begins to affect the quality of others’ lives.

“the prohibition of alcohol but without the same formality of Constitutional authority.”

One difference is that consumption of alcohol does not always have intoxication as its object — especially where water supplies are contaminated.

“People on the Right who claim to believe in rights will never be consistent”

I consistently believe in actual rights, and just as consistently reject bogus rights trumped up by the left in an effort to harm mankind.

“so long as they support anti-drug laws but will be picking and chusing which Constitutional rights to recognize according to their own whims, the same as any Leftist.”

Our rights do not derive from the Constitution; the Constitution only enumerates those rights regarded as most important by the Founding Fathers and state legislatures. The ultimate source of those rights, as the Founders often noted, is God.

Do you wish to make a case that God bestows upon us the right to intoxicate ourselves as drug addicts do? Bearing in mind, of course, the difference between a freedom and a right.

God leaves us free to do many bad things, but that in no way indicates that we have the right to commit them.


25 posted on 09/07/2009 4:33:34 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"What's the Constitution between friends?"

LBJ July 1965 to a Dem. con. helping pass Medicare

28 posted on 09/07/2009 4:54:31 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
No matter how bad drugs are for you, prohibition is a violation of Liberty borne out of the same union of state and religion that brought about the prohibition of alcohol but without the same formality of Constitutional authority.

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/hobbes/leviathan-d.html#CHAPTERXIX

“But as men, for the attaining of peace and conservation of themselves thereby, have made an artificial man, which we call a Commonwealth; so also have they made artificial chains, called civil laws, which they themselves, by mutual covenants, have fastened at one end to the lips of that man, or assembly, to whom they have given the sovereign power, and at the other to their own ears. These bonds, in their own nature but weak, may nevertheless be made to hold, by the danger, though not by the difficulty of breaking them.”

127 posted on 09/14/2009 5:58:03 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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